wwwi 2017-01-28 19:45:09
so, if the files are open from the usb stick, but saved, removing the usb stick wont corrupt them?
xXEoflaOEXx 2017-01-28 19:45:13
I have created Lubuntu 16.10 USB bootable drive in Rufus on Windows, version 1.12, but it finished without errors, but when I boot to USB, it goes straight to HDD boot.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:45:31
okay. i was just wondering .-. i just sometimes think people dont see mytext bc im using irssi
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:45:36
its a terminal based irc
ubuntu178 2017-01-28 19:45:49
Halo
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:46:08
NAME STEALER
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:46:11
kill him
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:46:31
xXEoflaOEXx, assuming the USB is good, you need to set your machine to boot from the USB. read your manual or check the website
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:46:35
The mini Acer I'm looking to install it on I havnt touched with yet
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:46:58
if theres anything i can do let me know aswell.
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:47:06
what is the cpu and ram ?
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:47:10
It's all good ubuntu, I was just typing something else while you were saying stuff
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:47:38
all these people join and then say noting or leave .-.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:47:57
lol see
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:48:03
if the files are open from the usb stick, but saved, removing the usb stick wont corrupt them?
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:48:21
no.
sirv 2017-01-28 19:48:23
wwwi ... welll
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:48:28
? Ubuntu117 read /msg ubottu quietirc
sirv 2017-01-28 19:48:36
wwwi ... it is the same as shutting down the PC
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:48:56
The CPU is a Celeron N2830 2.41GHz amicrawler
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:49:00
? wait do you mean while on live boot
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:49:17
firestriker: ram >?
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:49:18
Ram is 2gb atm I can upgrade it to 4 and need to lookup the max
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:49:19
sirv: they can still corrupt?
sirv 2017-01-28 19:49:32
wwwi .... what kind of file is it ?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:49:48
celeron will work not as fast
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:49:51
sirv text and a libre office spreadsheet
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:49:57
Ik
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:50:22
ram will help
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:50:37
but will still be slow
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:50:42
What version do you recommend
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:50:42
im just waiting my turn .-. untill i get to help or be helped but at the same time also furiosly masterbating
sirv 2017-01-28 19:51:00
wwwi > is there any way you can acces the console on that PC or GUI ? if no, then i do not see any difference if you remove the usb or not before reboot ... but I would remove it
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:51:18
you may want to goto mint
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:51:25
Ik I'm just hoping for it to go from painfully slow to useable slow or better
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:51:26
Ubuntu117, time for you to read the and follow the guidelines
xXEoflaOEXx 2017-01-28 19:51:27
cfhowlett, I went to Boot Menu, in my BIOS, and it appeared the USB RMD-FDD, and my USB next to it, so I assume BIOS recognized my USB drive. so I selected it, It failed and booted to HDD instead. I do not want to change the boot order.
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:51:28
my friend went to mint
xXEoflaOEXx 2017-01-28 19:51:54
Do I have to unplug all other USB?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:52:20
sirv so, removing the usb stick before rebooting, or not can corrupt the files? what if i connect another keyboard on the pc? maybe i ill be able access the console?
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:52:22
xXEoflaOEXx, 2 possibilities: 1. bad USB. 2. you did NOT tell your machine to boot from USB.
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:53:05
FireStriker: I run Bodhi (derivative of Ubuntu) on several old computers and it runs smooth as silk
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:53:17
firestriker : https://www.linux.com/answers/which-distribution-linux-would-fit-best-celeron-23ghz-and-1gb-ram
sirv 2017-01-28 19:53:23
wwwi YES try to connect another keyboard
sirv 2017-01-28 19:53:44
wwwi .. but now i think about the reisub ... maybe it is better to leave the stick in while doing the reisub
xXEoflaOEXx 2017-01-28 19:53:50
cfhowlett, but my USB is fine, and I know that I did not change the boot order. I will change them in my BIOS.
sirv 2017-01-28 19:54:04
yeah leave it in .. because the reisub does some unmounting ..
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:54:23
sirv ok
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:55:11
end chat /
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 19:55:26
I created a bootable ubantu lts 16.4 installation sd chip on 2 gig chip, When I turn computer on, it goes into installation mode, and asks, Install Ubuntu? when i boot with disk out it boots to windows 10. What worries me is it will format and overwrite my primary windows disk C. I have 8 drives in system, and prepared one clean one 250 gig for ubuntu, however due to uncertainty of the sequence
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 19:55:26
of the install routine, much talk of partitioning, but havent seen multiple disk examples thus far. Is it likely i might wipe my primary windows? And if so how do I avoid it. I know some of you snarky ones would say wipe it! wipe it! But I need it for work. standard water cooled pc type system. windows disk is in legacy mode, sd card eefi (sp). I have no idea how bios knows which hard
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 19:55:26
drive to boot from.
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:56:12
What is the difference with mint and *ubuntu?
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:56:22
the DE
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:56:26
mint uses Cinnamon
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:56:30
which has a ton of Gnome stuff
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:56:40
ive had your problem LENON
sirv 2017-01-28 19:56:42
lennon ... during installation you will be asked on which harddrive to install
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:56:50
i wiped my windows 7 with Manjaro
naqash 2017-01-28 19:57:07
:D
naqash 2017-01-28 19:57:11
;)
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:57:14
what i would do and ive always done this is disconnect all your other hard drives
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:57:15
Lennon^_^: you can relatively easily figure out which partition it is by opening up file browser and checking your drives, you'll find one with all your windows crap
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:57:19
just don't choose that during install ;)
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:57:24
Can you set up a dual boot with mint and win10?
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:57:29
yes
sirv 2017-01-28 19:57:36
lennon > during installation you will have multiple choises in one window ... which will offer u where to install ... just chhoose the 'expert' or 'i will choose' or 'custom' ... or what ever it is called ...
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:57:38
you can dual boot any Linux distro with Windows
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:57:39
Jmadero that didnt work for me
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:57:59
I have multiple HDs and that's how I do it
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:58:13
you can also use gparted to get a graphical idea of which drive is empty
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:58:17
i selected a 160 gig foe manjaro and it wiped a different hard drive there is a risk
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:58:24
yes what you said works
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:58:25
no there's not
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:58:27
you chose the wrong one
xXEoflaOEXx 2017-01-28 19:58:31
cfhowlett, I went to Boot sequency, and I changed the first boot device from Floppy to USB RMD-FDD:General UDisk. I saved and exit. It restarted my PC, and it did the same thing.
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:58:37
there is zero risk of choosing the right drive and wiping a different one
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:58:41
? yeah becasue you were there
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:58:53
im just giving a good no flaw solution
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:58:53
yeah - because I know user error when I see it
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:59:01
if thats his worry thats my solution
jmadero 2017-01-28 19:59:13
also having a backup is always recommended of course - because real problems can happen
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:59:14
im not saying youre wrong but
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:59:55
jmdero i can confirm that i selected a 160 because the two drives had different sizes
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:00:04
so eat a dick
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 20:00:19
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Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:00:34
but what i said does help that concern although ive only had it happen once
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:00:41
fuck you ubottu
chu 2017-01-28 20:01:11
Ubuntu117: Please don't.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:01:35
i have no filter im here to help
jmadero 2017-01-28 20:01:36
for the life of me I can't get my time to read right
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:01:38
Thank all of you for so many good ideas, I believe disconnecting the important drive(s) during the install is the way I am going to go. At least that way I get some exercise and wake the husband up, he deserve it for having me do this.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:01:43
sure my solution wasnt practical
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:02:11
at the risk of coming across as pedantic and raising the ire of ops, i'd like to point out that it's vulgarity, not profanity.
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 20:02:18
Ubuntu117, if you really want to help (not troll) READ and follow the guidelines that apply to everyone is this channel.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:02:24
not during
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:02:26
before
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:02:33
lol and while the pc is off
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:02:41
sorry i like had a stroke
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:03:15
im not a troll i came here with a question myself
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:03:28
but i saw those who needed help and if i could i woulds
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:03:28
that being said, this channel isn't tolerant of vulgarity. if you can't filter yourself, this isn't the right forum for you.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:03:59
k i heard the first 3 million people
sirv 2017-01-28 20:04:42
wwwi > so how is your data ?
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:04:46
and ive answere ubuntu forums questions i help people, not a troll
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:05:18
so like lennon didnt disconnect his drives during install right ;-;
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:05:29
bc that would be bad
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:05:35
have you considered running windows in a vm (perhaps with gpu passthrough) instead of dual booting?
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:06:15
Yes I installed VM oracle, and elected against it.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:06:18
if you have the suffeicient power and your use of windows isnt performace instensive windows in a vm is great
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:06:32
i just install xp in a vm today
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:06:49
i run a win10 vm for gaming. performance impact is on the order of 3% framerate.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:06:55
btw i have a question ;-; i forgot about
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:07:12
whos farmiliar with cain and abel?
ramil 2017-01-28 20:07:57
hello
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:08:03
hi
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:08:24
sirv i will be back in a bit, i havent done anything yet
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:08:43
morning/afternoon
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:09:19
can anyone refer me to a program that can show the connections of a target device on a lan network
sirv 2017-01-28 20:09:42
wwwi > if your files are so important why dont u have backup
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:09:47
My other half needs to learn linux and is too impatient to read manuals, and not a people person.
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:09:51
people often dismiss the idea of running windows in a vm for performance reasons, but if your hardware supports vt-d, it's a viable option.
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:10:03
I have the computer backed up.
unk 2017-01-28 20:10:06
Ubuntu117 ntopng
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:10:18
like ntopng thsnkyou unk
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:10:27
i really appreciate it
unk 2017-01-28 20:10:35
i use it on pfsense
unk 2017-01-28 20:10:38
works decent
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:12:01
i dont know alot about ntetworking past the OSI model used for teaching
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:12:31
so im pretty dumb ;=; but im always trying to learn but dont have alot of good sources
sirv 2017-01-28 20:12:52
117 it is not bad to be dumb ... enjoy it
sirv 2017-01-28 20:14:05
actually iit is much easier to be dumb .. dumb ppl have much less problems
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:14:27
im not sheeple dumb
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:14:31
I agree sirv, my husband is quite happy.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:14:55
compared to the average person im smart. compared to a computer expert dum as hell
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:15:02
not to suggest i am not also dumb.
sirv 2017-01-28 20:15:13
lennon > how do u know ? u notice it when he visits u in kitchen ?
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:15:18
lol lennon what gpu do you have
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:16:41
it has 8 cores, amd and flames out without the water cooler.
sirv 2017-01-28 20:17:18
there should be a version of ubuntu special for women
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:17:21
gpu, cpu, same thing.
sirv 2017-01-28 20:17:40
with recipes preinstalled, automatically launching firefox
sirv 2017-01-28 20:18:08
i'am going to do that .. will be called wUbuntu
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:18:14
many people would find this more offensive than liberal use of vulgarity.
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:18:24
Oh the dusty thing, that works okay after some air gun blowing for about 6 months to year.
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:18:25
i'm just sayin.
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:18:59
I know guys are better at computers, except mine.
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:19:43
hello all, please its been a little while i got my hands dirty on linux, and i'm playing with OpenKM... just run into issues on both debian 7/8 and ubuntu relating to IPv6 preventing apt-get from connecting to the internet
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:20:24
tried a few things I found on the internet, as in disabling IPv6, changing repo source to de instead of us sites
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:20:33
but, still no joy
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:20:47
i lost my ciggerettes life is over
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:20:52
does your isp support ipv6?
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:21:04
I can ping the repos but apt-get cannot connect to download stuff...
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:21:20
noimnotninevolt> does your isp support ipv6? (lemme check)
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:21:20
i connected another keyboard, control alt f1 doesnt bring me to the console
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:21:44
though, if it doesn't, and your ipv4 stack is working, that should 'just work' too...
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:21:56
caps lock doesnt work on new keyboard neither, light doesnt light
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:22:14
I think that was a silly question noimnotninevolt, but not sure.
sirv 2017-01-28 20:22:41
wwwi do the reisub stuff /.. but wait after typing each letter
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:22:47
Lennon^_^: i was asking neo_dc. my apologies for the confusion
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:23:17
sirv reisub wont corrupt my data?
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:23:18
noimnotninevolt> -- mmm i use vmware workstation on a windows host, i had turned off ipv6 on the NICs from the get go, I'll turn it back on, restart network on ,y linux VMs and see
sirv 2017-01-28 20:23:53
wwwi u should have thought about it before .. doing backup
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:23:58
neo_dc: you shouldn't need ipv6 connectivity, so that's probably not the most reasonable course of action.
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:26:22
can you try running `cat /etc/sysctl.conf | grep disable_ipv6` and see if you get any output?
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:26:32
@noimnotninevolt your suggestion led me to look at my physical and virtual NICs. gimme a few minutes let me see what gives .. hardware NIC had v6 off, however virtual bridge NICs had v6 turned on..
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:26:44
noi, I simply was under impression ipv6 was supported universally now by isps, but i could so easily be wrong. Sorry to interupt noimnotninevoit
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:26:45
you shouldn't need ipv6, that's my point :P
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:27:28
Lennon^_^: in this case, the ipv6 issue seems to be between the ubuntu vm and the isp, but again, we shouldn't need ipv6 for apt to work.
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:27:28
no output from "cat /etc/sysctl.conf | grep disable_ipv6"
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:27:37
what version of ubuntu?
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:27:53
I'm on the debian now, 7.6 64 bit
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:28:10
jessie>*
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:28:14
but anyway :P
sirv 2017-01-28 20:28:19
there is already ubuntu-women
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:28:25
try http://askubuntu.com/questions/440649/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-14-04
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:28:45
still weird that it would insist on ipv6 though
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:29:01
Noi, all I know of ipv6 vs 4 is it seems more a hardware thing.
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:29:04
@noimnotninevolt .. I will disable v6
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:29:08
i've never seen that happen, even in virtualized environments with broken/disabled ipv6
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:29:39
this is my experience: http://askubuntu.com/questions/574569/apt-get-stuck-at-0-connecting-to-us-archive-ubuntu-com
ducasse 2017-01-28 20:30:01
noimnotninevolt: try putting 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4 and see if apt behaves then.
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:30:07
what about alt print r and then control alt f1?
neo_dc 2017-01-28 20:30:15
I am turnuing on the ubuntu one, and I'll show you my command history
ducasse 2017-01-28 20:30:25
neo_dc: try putting 'Acquire::ForceIPv4 "true";' in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99force-ipv4 and see if apt behaves then.
sirv 2017-01-28 20:30:30
wwwi what is that supposed to do ?
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:30:37
neo_dc: what ducasse said :P
ducasse 2017-01-28 20:30:55
noimnotninevolt: sorry, bad tab expand - still waking up :)
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:31:12
full disclosure: i'm drunk
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:31:59
rule of thumb: when in doubt, disable ipv6. any networking people will want to stab me for saying that though.
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:32:06
sirv this article i am reading says, you take control of keyboard from gui server, then you can type what you want, so, then i can access the virtual console and kill the offending process
sirv 2017-01-28 20:32:41
wwwi ... try it ... but i see only solution now to just reboot
sirv 2017-01-28 20:33:10
wwwi u r too much worrying about the data .. there is like less than 1% chance they will corrupt
sirv 2017-01-28 20:33:27
and if it happes they it already happened
sirv 2017-01-28 20:33:33
*then
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:34:34
Surgical suite 2: We are trying to get a visual on the heart picture machine, what do we do?
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:34:43
jk
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:35:40
mission accomplished. apt is working.
noimnotninevolt 2017-01-28 20:36:24
and on that note, i'm passing out. good luck everyone else.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:36:37
i have deja ... something i backed up my Cyborg hawk linux files how would i access them on my other hard drive if i destroy this distro like i normally do
lord4163 2017-01-28 20:37:51
Ugh, let apt install a new sudoers file, now I'm locked out :/
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:38:02
117 isnt there perhaps a way to chmod, one of few commands i know to protect files?
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:38:41
control alt backspace may work?
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:38:41
could you reword the question im a bit slow comprehemding anything
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:38:49
to restart the x server?
sirv 2017-01-28 20:38:59
wwwi > nope, u r f*cked
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:39:04
i reread a sentence 10 times yesterday and dont get it still
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:39:11
flaps down time.
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:40:00
sirv can i connect to my linux pc from another pc and restart the xserver remotely?
sirv 2017-01-28 20:40:36
wwwi > u have sshd running ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:40:53
sirv the ssh server? i dont know
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:40:54
lennon i still dont understand the question ive tried rereading it.
sirv 2017-01-28 20:40:58
try just the first step prnscr + R
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:41:04
i have dyslaxie
sirv 2017-01-28 20:41:06
they try again keyboard shortcuts if they work
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:41:13
dysleiax
sirv 2017-01-28 20:41:19
*then
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:41:24
that was me typing to fat
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 20:41:35
117, you said you were writing some files, I asked simply if you might not be able to write protect them with the chmod command before writting.
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:42:25
sirv i tried alt, printscreen and r, didnt work, is it just printsreecn and r?
sirv 2017-01-28 20:42:43
alt+prnscr+R
ducasse 2017-01-28 20:42:52
wwwi: if you're trying to use the 'magic sysrq key' while x is running, you need to press ctrl+alt+printsc and then r,e,i,s,u,b
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:42:54
oh. i was asking about restoring a backup i
sirv 2017-01-28 20:43:02
now try ctrl+alt+F1
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:43:06
unless your question protains to you
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:43:14
in which im lost bc i was out
wwwi 2017-01-28 20:43:55
ducasse: i havent tried that yet, i am trying to see if there is something else i can try before i get there
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 20:44:17
im alsi being attacked for doritioes by a dog thats on my desk rn brb