psichas 2017-01-28 12:48:58
guys, could someone to say, how to reply for email conference with kmail? ;)
bekks 2017-01-28 12:55:09
psichas: By clicking "Answer"?
bekks 2017-01-28 12:55:18
psichas: It's an email, basically.
psichas 2017-01-28 12:56:51
bekks, i just want reply to all
psichas 2017-01-28 12:58:30
bekks, so if i will use reply to all everyone'll get email ? i don't know, i see only one email in the fiels "sen to"
Daniel_Carver 2017-01-28 12:58:44
bazhang: Please refrain from idling in #ubuntu-ops.
Daniel_Carver 2017-01-28 12:58:48
This is only for ops.
groundze1o 2017-01-28 13:06:39
hello need help..update kernel from 4.8 to 4.10, now my virtualbox does not work
groundze1o 2017-01-28 13:06:59
"kernel driver not installer (rc=-1908)
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:07:52
Hi everyone! I'm wondering how does Canonical count how many users each country has... it's accounted only those who create an account, right? Wouldn't it be possible to count by users actually USING Ubuntu?
groundze1o 2017-01-28 13:08:57
guest4814_web: probably..they are connecting themselves weekly,daily to get updates
k1l 2017-01-28 13:09:14
guest4814_web: its not easy to count the users. because users might share installs or have several machines at once. or reinstalling often.
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:10:37
Kil, Not possible to count the users that are actually both using Ubuntu and connected to the internet? That sounds quite simple to me...
wedgie 2017-01-28 13:11:32
guest4814_web: what if i have 300 machines, all using a caching server for updates. then how do you know?
wedgie 2017-01-28 13:12:05
also, does that make me 1 user, or 300?
\9 2017-01-28 13:12:06
guest4814_web: what if my ip address changes daily? do i get to count as multiple users?
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:12:32
@wedgie, that still would be fairly accurate. I mean... how many people use all that anyway?
\9 2017-01-28 13:12:36
most people have dynamic addresses
wedgie 2017-01-28 13:12:55
guest4814_web: who knows! and thats kindof the point
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:13:00
<\9> Great point!
\9 2017-01-28 13:13:12
you don't just count users like that
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:13:28
wedgie, yeah, I think you are correct
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:13:55
Can i get some help
\9 2017-01-28 13:14:13
and even if you did it like that, you'd still be collecting ip addresses and that's asking a lot from the privacy policy
\9 2017-01-28 13:14:17
to just.. count useres?
\9 2017-01-28 13:14:19
users*
chosig 2017-01-28 13:14:23
Hi, on a laptop (Lenovo Y510P) with a Geforce GT 755M is it possible to "dedicate" GPU0 to the laptop display (DP-0) and my external monitor to GPU1 (HDMI-0)?
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:15:01
Can i get help pleased
\9 2017-01-28 13:15:09
!ask | elijahdid711
ubottu 2017-01-28 13:15:10
elijahdid711: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
chosig 2017-01-28 13:15:13
elijahdid711, with?
Bashing-om 2017-01-28 13:15:26
!ask | elijahdid711
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:15:30
I don't think it's a big deal. In fact, it would be awesome to have a more accurate idea of the distro's popularities.
\9 2017-01-28 13:15:39
guest4814_web: it would be a very big deal
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:15:43
I installed ubuntu and it says remove usb and press enter
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:15:49
I have and it does nothibg
groundze1o 2017-01-28 13:15:53
e
groundze1o 2017-01-28 13:15:55
exit
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:15:55
Nothing*
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:15:59
How
chosig 2017-01-28 13:16:19
elijahdid711, I guess the installation is finished. If that is the fact, just remove the USB and reboot the computer - if enter doesn't work.
Bashing-om 2017-01-28 13:16:31
elijahdid711: And you reset the firmware to boot the hard drive ?
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:16:36
I can't
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:16:38
<\9> care to explain me why?
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:16:50
I hold the power button and nothing
\9 2017-01-28 13:16:56
guest4814_web: because you're mining ip addresses. that means you're collecting personal information.
\9 2017-01-28 13:17:11
that's asking a lot just to count users
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:17:50
<\9> Not "me". Just a known company called Canonical.
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:18:00
question... i just installed ubuntu for the first time... and its my first time using linux... when i decompress an archived installer... i assume its just one file right?? im gettin nervous cuz of how messy stuff got back when i used dos 6.2
\9 2017-01-28 13:18:14
guest4814_web: i was using a general "you", not you specifically
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:18:39
<\9> I know that. And I simply used your own example.
k1l 2017-01-28 13:18:48
guest4814_web: there is strong concerns about such a topic. if it would be that easy to count the users all linux distros would do it like that.
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:18:54
Can i get some help
wedgie 2017-01-28 13:19:19
guest4814_web: the number that matters most to canonical is how many oeople are oaying for support. and that is fairly straitforward to track :)
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:19:20
<\9> I don't care for my privacy. I'm not a terrorist or something.
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:19:35
Wait
\9 2017-01-28 13:19:44
guest4814_web: of course you care for your privacy. you just don't realise it
elijahdid711 2017-01-28 13:19:48
I got it off
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:19:48
Kil, I don't get why is that so polemic...
wedgie 2017-01-28 13:19:49
guest4814_web: maybe not. but many people do.
\9 2017-01-28 13:20:30
guest4814_web: you have bank account details, which means you have information you don't want others to have.
\9 2017-01-28 13:21:02
guest4814_web: and if someone can trace exactly what you do and when, that means they can easily manipulate you, even rob your house because they know when you're not there
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:21:04
<\9> why should I? Will Canonical ever use my bank account? I don't think so.
jmadero 2017-01-28 13:21:28
hi all - my timezone is all screwed up: Current default time zone: 'America/Los_Angeles' Local time is now: Sat Jan 28 08:20:45 PST 2017.
jmadero 2017-01-28 13:21:34
it is not that time in LA right now
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:21:37
wedgie Perhaps because people are too paranoid.
\9 2017-01-28 13:21:51
canonical, probably not. but if you don't look after your information you can wind up in a big mess
Aithan 2017-01-28 13:21:58
hi
wedgie 2017-01-28 13:22:20
guest4814_web: do you close the stall door when you poop in a public restroom?
\9 2017-01-28 13:22:34
this is going off-topic
wedgie 2017-01-28 13:22:44
indeed.
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:22:49
<\9> But my information would be shared only to Canonical, wouldn't it?
Bashing-om 2017-01-28 13:23:10
jmadero: Dual booting Windows - where Windows controls the hardware clock ?
\9 2017-01-28 13:23:12
guest4814_web: it'd still be a liability. and everything can be hacked
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:23:29
<\9> off-topic why?
\9 2017-01-28 13:23:29
and such would add extra pressure on canonical, to keep such data safe
\9 2017-01-28 13:23:35
because this is ubuntu support
\9 2017-01-28 13:23:42
not banter about online behavior
rile 2017-01-28 13:24:43
asus wth core i7 gtx 970m ...use it for 1 year on 16.04 and 16.10 until last 2 kernels upd ..now now and then frz...only mous its free :)
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:24:52
<\9> privacity is something obviously related to support.
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:25:13
<\9> privacy*
\9 2017-01-28 13:25:52
guest4814_web: but we're talking about hypothetical matters. while this channel is about solving existing problems in ubuntu
bazhang 2017-01-28 13:26:18
guest4814_web, chatter elsewhere please
rile 2017-01-28 13:27:58
my msk...
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:28:38
<\9> care to show me WHERE is the TOS that says explicitly that the support covers only existing problems?
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:29:08
best irc client for the latest ubuntu?
\9 2017-01-28 13:29:26
!ot | guest4814_web
ubottu 2017-01-28 13:29:26
guest4814_web: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
k1l 2017-01-28 13:29:48
PrincessBob: hexchat is widely used. for "best" its best to test what suits your own workflow best
Bashing-om 2017-01-28 13:29:55
!best | PrincessBob
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:29:57
ok
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:30:01
gotcha
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:30:03
ty
\9 2017-01-28 13:30:12
hexchat comes shipped with ubuntu
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:30:20
oh.. it does?
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:30:29
its my first time using ubuntu/anything linux.. ok lemme look
k1l 2017-01-28 13:30:31
hexchat is the new xchat.
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:31:28
where in the desktop is it?
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:31:31
hrm..
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:31:32
<\9> "Ubuntu help channel" is the description of this channel. I haven't found nothing stating that the conversation MUST be only about existing problems. ;)
reisio 2017-01-28 13:31:36
PrincessBob: alt+f2, hexchat
k1l 2017-01-28 13:32:28
guest4814_web: you are making it even worse now with your offtopic talk about your other offtopic is not offtopic. please keep this channel clear for people who come here to actual solve their technical issues.
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:33:00
mind if i pm you reisio? so i can keep the main open for those with more technical issues?
reisio 2017-01-28 13:33:17
no I don't, it's a chat network
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:33:22
ok ty :)
k1l 2017-01-28 13:33:34
PrincessBob: you can ask in here if its ubuntu support related.
PrincessBob 2017-01-28 13:33:45
its not.. its newbie stuff
k1l 2017-01-28 13:33:58
PrincessBob: that is what this channel is for.
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:34:27
k1l 2017-01-28 13:34:46
!guidelines | guest4814_web
ubottu 2017-01-28 13:34:46
guest4814_web: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:36:57
k1l 2017-01-28 13:37:44
guest4814_web: part: Language and Subject
filther 2017-01-28 13:39:22
Were is the newbie channel?
bazhang 2017-01-28 13:39:38
this is for all levels filther
k1l 2017-01-28 13:39:41
filther: you can ask in here.
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:39:48
k1l 2017-01-28 13:40:22
guest4814_web: last time now: stop that! you are spoiling this channel for users who seek real support.
bazhang 2017-01-28 13:40:39
guest4814_web, here is ubuntu support only, please chatter in some other place
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:43:12
PipeItToDevNull 2017-01-28 13:43:27
What is the issue?
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:43:47
bazhang 2017-01-28 13:44:09
guest4814_web, then ask
k1l 2017-01-28 13:44:10
guest4814_web: stop trolling
guest4414_web 2017-01-28 13:44:12
i support you
PipeItToDevNull 2017-01-28 13:44:36
Ok, so what is your issue?
guest4814_web 2017-01-28 13:45:02
I didn't say "i support you".