jorlin 2017-01-31 07:45:12
Lorcatar, Have you tried Enlightment? If you want full customisation, that one is a solid choice.
BluesKaj 2017-01-31 07:45:57
desktop environments are a matter of taste and look/prefernce
Lorcatar 2017-01-31 07:45:57
jorlin: I've noticed it was very pretty looking. I haven't tried it but you mentioning it makes me want to try it.
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:46:20
BluesKaj, but do you perhaps know how to restore the standard Ubuntu experience, while retaining the choice between the different variants?
BluesKaj 2017-01-31 07:47:05
afraid not jorlin
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:47:45
BluesKaj, I spent far too much time on the nasty Telepathy bug with conflicting resources between the KDE and the Gnome versions. took me about an hour to resolve that... :-/
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:48:16
BluesKaj, that bug is marked as Critical by the way...
BluesKaj 2017-01-31 07:48:41
telepathy is old and buggy, neber used it anyway
BluesKaj 2017-01-31 07:48:54
never
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:49:59
BluesKaj, neither have I, but someone did not test if KDE and Gnome would conflict when testing the packages for Telepathy...
hateball 2017-01-31 07:50:05
Well the problem in this case isnt so much about using it as actually being able to install kubuntu-desktop if you started with ubuntu-desktop
hateball 2017-01-31 07:50:21
it's been broken for quite some time
eein- 2017-01-31 07:50:38
how do you kick network manager into actually looking for wireless again after a hibernate?
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:50:45
This results in an unusable state for apt and it is quite tricky to resolve that.
eein- 2017-01-31 07:51:22
enabling and disabling networking and wifi does nothing. SSID from my previous location still show though they are no longer available
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:52:05
hateball, I have eventually succeeded in doing so, but it was not a smooth ride. Reminded me of the dependency hell I went through when trying SlackWare. Granted, that is more than 10 years ago.
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:53:05
eein, did you try an ifdown -> ifup combo (needs root privileges) ?
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:54:56
rajivmars, to summarise my answer on your question: I would love to be able to resolve it, but I don't know how :-(
wilbert 2017-01-31 07:55:15
join #debian
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:55:53
on your question -> *to* your question (my, am I getting sloppy with my grammar here :-S )
rek 2017-01-31 07:56:00
hi, can i install 4.10 live using the live cd morphix? What is the last ubuntu release i can use to use Qt Qt-2.3.0 ?
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:56:33
wilbert, who are you addressing, please?
nacc 2017-01-31 07:57:41
rek: i can't think of a reason why you would want to use 4.10. It's so old and fully unsupported here.
wilbert 2017-01-31 07:57:45
noone
wilbert 2017-01-31 07:57:50
I was trying to type /join #debain
wilbert 2017-01-31 07:57:55
and missed the /
jorlin 2017-01-31 07:58:07
Ah, ok, that makes sense.
rek 2017-01-31 07:59:06
nacc, this is the ubuntu channel :) do you want to know why i need qt-2.3.0 ?
nacc 2017-01-31 07:59:17
rek: this is the ubuntu *support* channel
BluesKaj 2017-01-31 07:59:28
wilbert, type it in the serber box
nacc 2017-01-31 07:59:29
rek: and you can see clearly in the /topic which releases are supported
BluesKaj 2017-01-31 07:59:33
server
adalbert 2017-01-31 07:59:52
Anyone using X11vnc -ssl ?
rek 2017-01-31 07:59:53
if there's a ubuntu-com-chat channel i'd be glad to be there
jorlin 2017-01-31 08:00:19
I am called to dinner right now. See you soon. Thanks for the nice atmosphere :-)
nacc 2017-01-31 08:00:20
!ot | rek: this is probably what you want, but I assume folks there will say the same thing.
ubottu 2017-01-31 08:00:20
rek: this is probably what you want, but I assume folks there will say the same thing.: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
rek 2017-01-31 08:00:44
thanks nacc
jorlin 2017-01-31 08:00:50
Have a nice (insert your time of day here) :-)
eein- 2017-01-31 08:02:19
jorlin, I did it just says unknown interface and I don't see anyting in dmesg about it other than the normal link not ready
Aprel 2017-01-31 08:10:52
Hi I downloaded and compiled (./configure make make install) the latest sources for gnupg, but my /usr/bin/gnupg still points to the repo version. What's the proper way of installing the new binary into the system?
Aprel 2017-01-31 08:11:51
If it matters, I'm upgrading from the 1.x repo version to 2.x from sources
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:12:29
Aprel: You probably need to specify where you want the gnupg binary to go using switches for ./configure
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:12:59
Aprel: By default it will go to /usr/local/bin probably
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:13:29
Aprel: And you need think hard before you stomp on the system install of that binary given that you may break software that depends on it
OerHeks 2017-01-31 08:15:37
!info gnupg2
ubottu 2017-01-31 08:15:37
gnupg2 (source: gnupg2): GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement (dummy transitional package). In component main, is extra. Version 2.1.15-1ubuntu6 (yakkety), package size 6 kB, installed size 46 kB
Aprel 2017-01-31 08:16:20
wilbert: you're right; it's in /usr/local/bin. I'll leave the repo version in /usr/bin and call this one as necessary
Aprel 2017-01-31 08:17:04
Problem now is it can't find the lib libgcrypt.so.20, even tho I see it in /usr/local/lib :/
Aprel 2017-01-31 08:18:03
Did I likely screw up the configure? Is it looking for the lib in /usr/lib even tho the binary was installed to /usr/local/bin?
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:18:24
hey
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:18:41
Aprel: you can either specify a different path for .so's in configure
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:19:12
or use linker options or environment variables to tell software to look in that directory on a case by case basis
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:19:48
can you get the IRC client version or the OS version of some user using a command?
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:20:01
/usr/ is for system required stuff
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:20:07
for example, some people discovered my OS version and i can't see it on whois
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:20:10
/usr/local is for stuff you compile yourself
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:20:29
keeping them separate so you don't hose your system by replacing some requried version with an incompatible one
frenda 2017-01-31 08:23:25
Youtube subtitles are odd!; They are in two lines and previous line is kept! they are in vtt format that sucks; Do you know any player that can follow vtt contents well?
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:23:54
no? nobody? :(
frenda 2017-01-31 08:24:00
I mean I want to watch downloaded subtitle+video from Ytube
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:24:03
SaltyKawaiiNeko: yes
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:24:18
SaltyKawaiiNeko: they can. Using something call Client-To-Client-Protocol
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:24:27
tell me more
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:24:48
SaltyKawaiiNeko: You should really just google it and read about it
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:24:57
wilbert: thank you ^^
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:25:07
SaltyKawaiiNeko: np
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:25:27
wilbert: can i try it on you? :P
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:25:42
SaltyKawaiiNeko: go a head
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:26:23
it works! ^^
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:26:59
i can't see your OS version (and people can see mine) but i guess i'm on the right track
Aprel 2017-01-31 08:27:01
wilbert: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib fixed the problem for a current session. Can I reconfigure and recompile the gnupg binary so it checks for that lib directory without the env variable?
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:27:02
SaltyKawaiiNeko: yep, I got my warning messages
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:27:41
Aprel: recompiling won't do anything as its a shared library rather than a statically linked one
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:28:25
Aprel: You could modify your shells .profile, .bashrc, whatever to automatically set that variable at startup
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:28:28
wilbert: any info about when is OS version available or not?
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:28:45
SaltyKawaiiNeko: It will only tell you what I have the client configured to tell you
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:28:59
SaltyKawaiiNeko: Its not secret magic that reaches through the irc client and probes the OS
Aprel 2017-01-31 08:29:06
wilbert: ok, that's a good idea. Thanks for all the help :)
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:29:07
wilbert: then it was a irssi thing
Aprel 2017-01-31 08:29:13
SaltyKawaiiNeko: nice nick, btw
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:29:14
SaltyKawaiiNeko: most likely
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:29:15
wilbert: thank you very much ^^
zzombie 2017-01-31 08:29:16
hello
wilbert 2017-01-31 08:29:23
SaltyKawaiiNeko: np
SaltyKawaiiNeko 2017-01-31 08:29:27
Aprel: ty <3
zenlambda 2017-01-31 08:40:59
if i put a script in /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks, it should always be executed when i call update-initramfs -u right?
genii 2017-01-31 08:44:06
zenlambda: Yes