bigLanky 2017-01-28 18:45:38
how much different is 16.04 from 14.04
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:48:27
hey is there a way to remove all the non default programs and packages?
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:48:34
big read the release notes please
Bashing-om 2017-01-28 18:48:40
bigLanky: The user experience is the same . a lot of change under the hood with the advent of systemd .
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:49:03
jamie_1, non-default meaning the packages *you* installed?
bigLanky 2017-01-28 18:49:05
and 14 uses init.d?
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:49:09
cfhowlett: yes
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:49:30
jamie_1, of course. just remove them
sirv 2017-01-28 18:49:43
amicrawler hmmmm
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:49:48
via software center or the terminal
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:50:25
cfhowlett: i made a mistake and wrote up a script to add a shit ton of programs for a specific set of uses... now no longer have the script and a shit ton of packages i dont need that are now causing issues with deps on other stuff
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:50:44
jamie_1, what *buntu are you on?
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:50:51
gnome
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:50:56
16.04
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:50:59
no... .10
amicrawler 2017-01-28 18:51:01
sirv: not sure what to do
amicrawler 2017-01-28 18:51:08
my sb work fine
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:51:19
jamie_1, so you have ppas I take it?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 18:51:20
but not this new card i got today
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:51:36
cfhowlett: no i set it up so it removed them after install as to not update...
sirv 2017-01-28 18:51:58
amicrawler > i would google for this issie and loof in /var/log for information
sirv 2017-01-28 18:52:06
*issue
sirv 2017-01-28 18:52:08
*look
jyo_ 2017-01-28 18:52:34
hello
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:52:48
jamie_1, if you have recently installed, your activity will be in your logs. wait 1
jyo_ 2017-01-28 18:53:49
if I use dpkg --add-architecture i386, will it cause update probles with apt?
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:53:55
cfhowlett: it was awhile ago
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:54:01
jamie_1, more /var/log/apt/history.log
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:54:08
"awhile"? this month?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 18:54:12
humm
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:54:28
cfhowlett: no like 5-6
amicrawler 2017-01-28 18:54:33
my sound blaster usb card works fine
sirv 2017-01-28 18:54:35
why did u get a new soundcard anyway ?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 18:55:05
becuse the onborad audio not very good
sirv 2017-01-28 18:55:11
sometimes it is better to stick to old card if it works
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:55:26
jamie_1, ah. well, I'd say a clean install is in order. download th 16.04.2 .iso, make an install USB, reboot to USB and install the OS to your current partitions. be careful NOT to format your /home
jyo_ 2017-01-28 18:55:36
having been added by dpkg and not apt or apt-get? Is this perhaps working on something older than the packages them selves and thus not problematic?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 18:55:40
its analog
amicrawler 2017-01-28 18:55:50
sound horable
amicrawler 2017-01-28 18:56:01
ill enable again in biso
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:56:34
cfhowlett: i know all that fun stuff... was just hoping there might be a way to do it without loosing all my suff
moxuan 2017-01-28 18:56:50
hello
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:57:05
jamie_1, "take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
jamie_1 2017-01-28 18:57:36
cfhowlett: lol i know... ive dont that way to many times
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 18:59:31
jamie_1, or ... go through the history.log and kill anything that is out of place. actually it will be history.log.log IIRC
sirv 2017-01-28 19:00:48
cf, just reinstall from live CD
sirv 2017-01-28 19:01:23
i mean jamie
sirv 2017-01-28 19:01:36
i always just reinstall if there are issues
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:01:45
sirv, he's trying to avoid a reinstall ... I already advised it
jamie_1 2017-01-28 19:01:53
sirv: trying not to loose my local trees
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:02:01
ok your right
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:02:08
sound is just as good
jamie_1 2017-01-28 19:02:15
but its looking like im doing it anyways
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:02:16
with onborad
sirv 2017-01-28 19:02:40
ami > if it works, dont change it :)
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:02:56
its intel audio card
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:03:04
sounds ok
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:03:13
ill return the other card
sirv 2017-01-28 19:03:15
ami > but the onboard is not anolog nowadays .. it is all digital i think
sirv 2017-01-28 19:03:44
if you dont have any noises from electronic interference, there should not be any quality difference in those cards
sirv 2017-01-28 19:04:01
but i'am no expert
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:04:05
Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)
sirv 2017-01-28 19:04:22
sounds legit
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:04:40
what about soundblster
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:04:52
its good as well ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:04:55
hello
sirv 2017-01-28 19:05:02
i do not think there is difference in sound quality ...
sirv 2017-01-28 19:05:07
maybe in features
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:05:09
ubuntu gui froze
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:05:22
wwwi memory ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:05:26
mouse and keyboard don't respond
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:05:34
unplug and replug
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:05:45
i did that my mouse does not show up
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:05:53
amicrawler: memory?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:06:00
but unplug and back and it works
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:06:10
ram ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:06:16
amicrawler: unplug what?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:06:25
the mouse and keyborad
sirv 2017-01-28 19:06:26
try ctrl+alt+backspace ? it restarts X server .. at least in the old version it worked
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:06:37
thats is whats not working right ?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:06:54
what ver of ubuntut are you using ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:07:25
amicrawler: i think its 15
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:07:48
and mouse will not move?
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:07:50
wwwi, dead and unsupported. install a supported version
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:08:05
im on 14.05
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:08:14
went back from 16.04
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:08:26
mouse doesn't move, caps lock doesnt work
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:08:33
humm
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:08:38
does it work on liveboot
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:08:55
chromium has lots of tabs open
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:08:58
from boot usb stick or cdrom -dvd?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:09:25
liveboot? i dint try that
sirv 2017-01-28 19:09:28
sudo service lightdm restart
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:09:37
how much does ram does the computer have ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:09:46
amicrawler: 8
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:09:54
8GB?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:09:58
yes
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:10:00
or 8MB
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:10:08
8 gb
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:10:11
and video card ?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:10:16
ati nvidia
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:10:37
no video card, it's the one in i5
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:10:53
so more then likely intel
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:11:01
yes
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:11:11
so shared memory
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:11:16
with swap
sirv 2017-01-28 19:11:33
8gb is enough
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:11:37
yes
sirv 2017-01-28 19:11:44
just do not open so many tabs
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:11:45
that what i have
sirv 2017-01-28 19:11:48
in browser
sirv 2017-01-28 19:11:55
and u have swap enabled ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:12:24
sirv i don't know if swap is enabled
sirv 2017-01-28 19:12:44
but if u have slow harddrive it will be slow anyways .. type 'free' in console
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:13:24
mine does not use swap
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:13:34
but it is there if needed
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:13:52
sirv: how do i go to the console? i tried control alt f1, but nothing happened
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:14:27
ctrl+alt+f5
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:14:50
ctrl+alt+f7 to go back to gui
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:15:01
amicrawler: ok, i just tried it, but it didn't work
sirv 2017-01-28 19:15:08
alt+f2 ... type 'term'
sirv 2017-01-28 19:15:22
click on the icon 'terminal' or 'term' or waht ever shows up
sirv 2017-01-28 19:15:26
there type 'free'
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:15:55
have you reboot the computer ?
sirv 2017-01-28 19:16:18
it will show u how much memory u have, how much free, and also the same about swap space if enabled
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:16:20
sirv: alt f2 and then will i see anything on the screen and type term or will it be invinsible?
sirv 2017-01-28 19:16:36
alt+f2 ... a textbox will appear
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:17:04
amicrawler: i havent rebooted, will i lose data if i do?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:17:25
do you have any thing running that is needed ?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:17:40
or can you redo it
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:18:12
amicrawler: well, i have a couple of files, open but saved in a usb stick, but they are open, will they corrupt?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:18:23
not sure
sirv 2017-01-28 19:18:33
just kill the chrome
sirv 2017-01-28 19:18:49
or firefox or wahtever
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:18:59
yep that works to
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:19:03
sirv: i cant reach the terminal, it doesnt open
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:19:05
kill the pid
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:19:33
the gui is frozen for good
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:19:42
!reisub
ubottu 2017-01-28 19:19:42
In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:20:34
cfhowlett: with reisub, i wont lose dat?
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:21:11
wwwi, probably you will. then again, your system is locked. choose your options
sirv 2017-01-28 19:22:02
i had to test it .. it works .. the stuff with prnscr
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:22:35
cfhowlett: i mean, with reisub, i will probably lose data?
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:22:52
yes you will probably lose any data you have not already seaved
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:22:56
*saved*
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:23:15
cfhowlett: but will it corrupt my files?
sirv 2017-01-28 19:23:37
wait
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:23:40
correct me if I'm wrong, wwwi: your system is locked?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:23:53
cfhowlett: gui is frozen
sirv 2017-01-28 19:24:10
press CTRL+ALT+F1 .. but wait .. it will switch u to console .... to go back to desktop press then alt+f7
sirv 2017-01-28 19:24:30
so when u in console .. login .. type free and let us know what is there
sirv 2017-01-28 19:24:39
i think your browser used too much memory
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:24:43
sirv: i pressed, but nothing happens
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:25:11
are u using a vrbox
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:25:20
or wubi
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:25:23
wwwi, you have 2 options: hard reboot via holding the power button or reiusb reboot. either way, any data you have not already backed up is going to vanish
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:25:29
under windows
sirv 2017-01-28 19:25:48
cf if he can get into console maybe he can recover somehow
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:26:01
amicrawler, wubi is dead, unsupported and hopelessly broken. please do not encourage its use
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:26:06
sirv, agreed
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:26:13
i was not
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:26:19
amicrawler: vrbox? virtualbox under windows? no. keyboard and mouse are connected with a kvm though, to linux pc
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:26:19
was just asking
sirv 2017-01-28 19:26:51
www and now u are using the computer we are talking about ?
sirv 2017-01-28 19:27:10
if guy is frozen how u irciing ?
sirv 2017-01-28 19:27:13
gui
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:27:38
just asking
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:27:45
cfhowlett: any unbackuped data is going to vanish? if files are saved, they are not going to vanish, right?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:28:00
if you were using a virtualbox
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:28:03
sirv: from other pc
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:28:14
or a kvm
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:28:50
wwwi, unless you did something to actually BREAK the OS, not just freeze it, your data should be safe
sirv 2017-01-28 19:29:04
what data we are talking about ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:29:12
amicrawler: i am not using a virtual box, just this hardware,mthat allows you to use a keyboar and a mouse with two pcs
sirv 2017-01-28 19:29:45
well try to connect keyboard directly to test
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:29:54
have you unplug the kvm on the linux side and replug in ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:29:58
cfhowlett: ok, so reisub won't corrupt my saved, but open files in my usb stick?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:30:22
or are you using a vr kvm ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:30:23
amicrawler: no, should i do that?
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:30:23
wwwi, wait ...
sirv 2017-01-28 19:30:28
i think reisub will also not work for u :)
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:30:47
wwwi, are you booted to a natively installed ubuntu or did you boot an ubuntu USB?
Snert__ 2017-01-28 19:30:53
is it true that Ubuntu now has ads in it?
sirv 2017-01-28 19:30:53
your bproblem is between the keyboard and the chair
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:31:20
cfhowlett: natively installed ubuntu
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:31:27
wwwi, so unplug the usb
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:31:37
PEBKAC
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:31:48
cfhowlett: why?
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:32:22
you asked about USB data. Unplug USB.
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:32:22
unless it is booting off the usb as alive boot
sirv 2017-01-28 19:32:29
can u ssh or telnet to the machine ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:32:59
cfhowlett: if i unplug the usb, what happens?
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:33:11
wwwi, to the computer? nothing
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:33:34
cfhowlett: if i unplug the usb, the data is safer?
cfhowlett 2017-01-28 19:33:58
wwwi, the data already written to usb is safe. data NOT written is a lost cause
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:35:22
cfhowlett: ok, but then why should i unplug the usb?
sirv 2017-01-28 19:35:59
so u have data safe in your hand
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:36:05
are you trying to save the chrome info ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:36:34
amicrawler: no, i just want the data in the usb stick
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:37:24
were you saving something in the middle of the gui locking up on you
sirv 2017-01-28 19:37:28
ffs, just unplug the usb and reboot and let us know if any data was saved
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:37:50
amicrawler: i dont think so
sirv 2017-01-28 19:38:13
what were u doing when the gui locked up ?
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:38:21
sirv: why i need to unplug the usb stick, before i reboot?
sirv 2017-01-28 19:38:49
wwwi > to have data save in hand ...like to be sure ... better to have usb stick in hand then plugged in
sirv 2017-01-28 19:39:06
in that way nothing will affect it
ThePotato456 2017-01-28 19:39:10
i have installed ubuntu on my toshiba laptop but when i start i get "No UMS in module radeo."
ThePotato456 2017-01-28 19:39:14
radeon
wwwi 2017-01-28 19:39:30
sirv: i see
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:40:26
465 did you upgrade?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:40:33
456
ThePotato456 2017-01-28 19:40:44
yes
ThePotato456 2017-01-28 19:40:53
is there ati drivers?
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:40:58
hello
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:41:13
and you have a ati card ?
Lennon^_^ 2017-01-28 19:41:20
I have sd chip question, when my turn.
ThePotato456 2017-01-28 19:41:23
yes
ThePotato456 2017-01-28 19:41:45
remaking an install disk
ThePotato456 2017-01-28 19:41:51
ill come back when installed
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:42:18
im looking for some information and also answering questions if need
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:42:24
Hi all I was here earlier. I have a Acer Aspire E11 laptop I'm looking to instal ubuntu onto. It has a Celeron N2830 2.14GHz and 2GB of ram.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:42:41
Fire sTiker
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:42:44
lol sry
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:43:05
have you tried this without success
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:43:12
ubuntu 16
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:43:14
or is this your first time
xangua 2017-01-28 19:43:14
FireStriker: same answer, Lubuntu
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:43:27
Ok
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:43:39
halo?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:43:46
456 did you upgrade to ubunut 16
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:44:01
I know ubuntu is out of the question I'm just wonder about the CPU what's the best ver for it.
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:44:03
ubuntu 16 is very unstable be careful
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:44:16
Fire
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:44:19
my ati card loads
Ubuntu117 2017-01-28 19:44:22
can you see my text?
amicrawler 2017-01-28 19:44:29
but went back to 14
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:44:36
Not my first time installing Ubuntu but I havnt started to install it yet Ubuntu117
FireStriker 2017-01-28 19:44:58
I have a old Toshiba laptop with lubuntu