guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:45:24
wedgie: how can you prevent the change?
wedgie 2017-01-25 14:45:44
if you want a more stable name that your friends can use, look into Dynamic DNS. That's not really an ubuntu question, though, so google will be your friend
wedgie 2017-01-25 14:46:17
guyFromWeb: you can't prevent it from changing. Well, you can, but that would almost certainly involve paying your ISP more money every month
rbux 2017-01-25 14:46:23
@wedgie nicely done.. @guyFromWeb www.giyf.com
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:47:27
rbux: i can find the steps, i just needed to know WHAT to setup :D
wedgie 2017-01-25 14:47:35
guyFromWeb: to be clear, there are 2 different addresses we're talking about. The one assigned to your server (which you are now creating a dhcp reservation for) which is probably 192.168.something
wedgie 2017-01-25 14:47:48
guyFromWeb: that one will stay stable for as long as you want
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:48:00
okay
wedgie 2017-01-25 14:48:05
the other IP is your PUBLIC ip. Go to www.whatismyip.com or a site like that to see it
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:48:12
and the one i give my friends is the one that i can google :D
wedgie 2017-01-25 14:48:18
that is the one your friends will need to know and is subject to change
rbux 2017-01-25 14:49:03
in IT-World its common for beginners that beginning of $something and the end of $something is something you have to redefine without time-parameters :P
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:50:00
okay :D
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:50:08
thanks all of you guys
rbux 2017-01-25 14:50:41
@guyFromWeb if you are generally interestet in setting up servers i recommend www.golang.org its googles language built for inter-server-communication
rbux 2017-01-25 14:51:07
at least thats what it was back in 2013
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:51:18
rbux: yeah, i wanna get into programming, but i really don't have a good knowledge of networking right now
wedgie 2017-01-25 14:51:44
what does golang have to do with setting up servers?
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:51:45
the worst thing is - i know Java (not all, but fairly enough I could say), and they are teaching us BASIC
kk4ewt 2017-01-25 14:51:52
guyFromWeb, so are you setting up a server or just your desktop
rbux 2017-01-25 14:52:03
nice. the world needs every padawan :) but 'do not be evil' ;) just keep it in mind when coding
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:52:08
kk4ewt: it's on Ubuntu laptop
kk4ewt 2017-01-25 14:52:20
then dhcp should be fine for you
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:52:22
ye
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:52:30
it's just for school really
rbux 2017-01-25 14:53:08
@guyFromWeb java-basics are nice but try to learn non-OOP-languages instead.
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:53:25
rbux: why
rbux 2017-01-25 14:53:46
@guyFromWeb skill-increasement ;)
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:54:07
yeah, i didn't start with the best language, but at least i'll have it easier for now (maybe)
rbux 2017-01-25 14:54:38
sooner or later you will recognize that its not the matter of language ;)
rbux 2017-01-25 14:55:00
they're pretty much all the same.. especially the OOP's
wedgie 2017-01-25 14:55:01
guyFromWeb: there is not bad language to learn. Java is a fine first choice. Most concepts transfer readily to other languages. BASIC on the other hand...
rbux 2017-01-25 14:55:40
give golang a try.. its easy, well documented, highly powerfull etc...
dTal 2017-01-25 14:55:48
don't knock BASIC, it teaches imperative style, variables and control flow without distractions
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:56:03
i'll be honest since i know some java then basic is really pointless to me
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:56:35
I like Java syntax more :P
wedgie 2017-01-25 14:56:38
dTal: perhaps, but i generally prefer to learn on a language that you might actually use in the real world. 2 for 1 that way
rbux 2017-01-25 14:57:16
@guyFromWeb i can totally understand your feelings towards BASIC.. and i do not like MS-related Languages as well.. ok i need them sometimes but i dislike 'em :P
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:58:05
yep lol
bazhang 2017-01-25 14:58:16
!ot | rbux guyFromWeb
ubottu 2017-01-25 14:58:16
rbux guyFromWeb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
rbux 2017-01-25 14:58:30
wedgies way is the best.. simplify everything.
dTal 2017-01-25 14:58:33
well then it's C for practical programming with a Java like syntax, Python for "git 'er done", and Scheme for learning the ways of the force
bazhang 2017-01-25 14:58:35
rbux chit chat elsewhere please
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:58:43
oh wow
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:58:44
:D
dTal 2017-01-25 14:58:58
okay ontopic
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:59:11
dTal doesn't get any warning? :D
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:59:16
yeah i'm going
guyFromWeb 2017-01-25 14:59:20
thanks for the help again
dTal 2017-01-25 14:59:25
ubuntu 12.04: all my magic SysRq combinations are scrambled. Space does nothing. 0 does what space should do. m does what 0 should do.
rbux 2017-01-25 14:59:52
@bazhang just trying to help guyFromWeb but i totally copy and understand your point.. lets switch to OT cuz it really is gettin OT :)
bazhang 2017-01-25 15:00:01
thanks
dTal 2017-01-25 15:00:48
thoughts?
dTal 2017-01-25 15:01:58
scancodes seem normal
rbux 2017-01-25 15:03:12
upgrade to at least 14.04 is my first thougt :P
tengelic 2017-01-25 15:03:27
cat proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
tengelic 2017-01-25 15:05:39
dTal
dTal 2017-01-25 15:06:13
tengelic: it's enabled, like I said 0 does what space should do - I get the "help"
dTal 2017-01-25 15:06:50
rbux: I installed this with Wubi back in the day, it's running on a Vista NTFS partition
dTal 2017-01-25 15:06:59
I'm afraid if I try and upgrade it, it might explode
Bashing-om 2017-01-25 15:07:49
!wubi | dTal
ubottu 2017-01-25 15:07:50
dTal: Wubi was a way to install Ubuntu from within Windows, but it is no longer supported in recent versions of Ubuntu and Windows, and was never well maintained even for Ubuntu 12.04. Do not use Wubi. See !install for other options for installing Ubuntu.
dTal 2017-01-25 15:08:06
well gee that's useful
dTal 2017-01-25 15:08:12
thanks for the advice
tengelic 2017-01-25 15:09:40
Choose another tty and check the output of sysrq commands. The 0 record in the forementioned file have nothing to do with space
dTal 2017-01-25 15:11:20
tengelic: it is a 1 in the file. Because sysrq is enabled. As is obvious by the fact that alt+sysrq+0 gives me the sysrq help. Which is wrong.
openupthesky 2017-01-25 15:11:38
hi all, quick question. I'm trying to configure a mouse in xorg. I set options in a file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d and it works fine at the login screen, but after logging in it gets reset. is there another place I should put it?
openupthesky 2017-01-25 15:12:01
ubuntu 16.04.1 lts, btw
tengelic 2017-01-25 15:14:09
dTal: do you want to change loglevel?
dTal 2017-01-25 15:14:45
no I want sysrq keys to work, or at least identify the pattern behind their wrongness, so that next time the laptop hangs I can sync the filsystems
transitbot 2017-01-25 15:14:53
Question
dTal 2017-01-25 15:15:04
because frankly hard power-offs are incredibly risky with Wubi
transitbot 2017-01-25 15:15:13
I installed a program and went to open it and nothing happened.. how do i see what happened?
RNeville 2017-01-25 15:15:13
which video card does Ubuntu support best - AMD or Nvidia?
transitbot 2017-01-25 15:15:26
ubunu 14.04
wedgie 2017-01-25 15:15:57
transitbot: going to need more details: What program? How did you install it? How did you try to open it?
transitbot 2017-01-25 15:17:12
Reason 9 , installed with WINE , trying to open with WINE and nothing happens
Bashing-om 2017-01-25 15:19:53
RNeville: Presenly sepends on what card, what release, and your use case . AND is hard at work developing a fully functional open source driver . Currently nVidia works across a larger spectrum .
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:20:31
My computer has three video outputs. One is on the motherboard, and two more are on a plug-in video card. There is a selection in the BIOS for primary display.
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:20:55
If I set the primary as motherboard, ubuntu comes up on the display plugged into that port.
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:21:12
If I set it to the plug-in board, ubuntu just crashes.
RNeville 2017-01-25 15:21:16
thx Bashing-om
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:22:31
How can I set ubuntu to exclusively use the plug-in board instead of the onboard video?
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:23:42
Please?
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:24:52
I do see the nouveau driver installed... but it seems bound and determined to use the onboard video.
wedgie 2017-01-25 15:25:37
MarkB2: can you elaborate on "just crashes"?
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:26:07
No keyboard response. At least one of the keyboard LEDs flashing.
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:26:20
No response to the power on/off button.
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:27:01
The only way I've found to regain control is to hold down the power button to shut off power then turn power back on.
Bashing-om 2017-01-25 15:27:01
RNeville: I can concede in the near future that AMD will be the better choice .
transitbot 2017-01-25 15:27:28
:P
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:27:31
Get into the BIOS, flip the video select back to "motherboard", then continue with a normal boot.
tengelic 2017-01-25 15:28:20
Bashing-om: I heard that story. Nvidia cards are supported by all game on steam, so it's obvious.
Bashing-om 2017-01-25 15:28:41
MarkB2: If this is hybrid " nVidia/Intel " graphics, Then it is the function of 'nvidia-prime' to switch graphic's sets .
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:29:31
Bashing-om: Motherboard is Intel 915, plug-in is NVidial 6200 .
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:29:44
Make that "Nvidia"..
Bashing-om 2017-01-25 15:29:51
tengelic: Currently, that is a fact . no doubts .
Bashing-om 2017-01-25 15:31:46
MarkB2: If it is one or the other ( non hybrid) then so far as I know bios is the only option to control the chip sets .
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:32:22
Just looked through /var/log/syslog . It's full of messages from nouveau. "fail set_domain", "validating bo list", "validate: -22"
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:32:49
There are hundreds of repeats.
Bashing-om 2017-01-25 15:34:37
tengelic: But - be aware - I recemtly made that choice and I went nVidia - BUT the card I got is too new and has no support in the 14.04 release for my use case !
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:35:10
grr.. *distribution*
Bashing-om 2017-01-25 15:37:59
MarkB2: Pastebin ' sudo lshw -C diplay ' let's consider installing a proprietary driver . - As I noted above . my nVidia card has no nouveau support in 14.04 .
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:38:21
One moment.
newcoder 2017-01-25 15:39:58
What's the difference between ubuntu and fedora with gnome? one is .deb and another .rpm, any other difference?
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:40:25
Bashing-om: pastebin.ca ?
cfhowlett 2017-01-25 15:40:25
newcoder, too many to list in the support channel. please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
cfhowlett 2017-01-25 15:40:47
newcoder, or read the wikipedia pages
MarkB2 2017-01-25 15:42:29
Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ca/3760414