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Saturday, February 25, 2017

#ubuntu channel featuring kaosine, keks, RedPenguin, momken, z3, stratocastorNM, and 14 others.

stratocastorNM 2017-02-25 11:04:17
I'd hope not! but possibly..
sphrak 2017-02-25 11:05:57
well ill fiddle around some more, I have other NICs I can try with anyways so.. thanks for taking a look anyways :) if I find any thing significant ill report back
momken_ 2017-02-25 11:05:59
test1
momken_ 2017-02-25 11:06:31
test2
sphrak 2017-02-25 11:06:44
momken_: test3
stratocastorNM 2017-02-25 11:10:17
some other stuff to try sphrak https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177314
stratocastorNM 2017-02-25 11:10:30
sorry, dont have a good answer!
sphrak 2017-02-25 11:11:36
stratocastorNM: ah yes ive used ethtool to determine what link speed I get, I then disocvered dmesgs output hehe oh well
stratocastorNM 2017-02-25 11:12:03
Oh, you're far ahead of me then!!
keks 2017-02-25 11:17:00
hey, i just installed 16.10 on a yoga 900. everything works great! can i enable two-finger scrolling on the touchscreen though? it already works on the touchpad and unity's multitouch gestures work fine on the screen
keks 2017-02-25 11:17:20
(i hope asking again is okay after some time?)
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:18:12
I doubt it
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:18:20
but I don't oknw
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:18:23
don't know
keks 2017-02-25 11:18:43
yeah i just realized that was only 15m
keks 2017-02-25 11:18:58
i'll idle anyway, maybe ask again tomorrow
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:19:01
thats fine
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:19:03
15m is fine
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:19:05
but I mean I doubt you can do it on the touchscreen
keks 2017-02-25 11:19:11
ohh is see :)
keks 2017-02-25 11:19:14
hm, too bad
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:19:17
you'll need to look at what xorg driver your touch screen can support
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:19:20
probably none
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:19:32
touch screen on linux is quite a narrow window of supported devices,
keks 2017-02-25 11:19:39
oh the touch screen works
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:19:44
but I don't know the full list
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:19:50
keks: thats a good start then
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:20:00
you just need to see if the driver it's using supports multi-touch,
keks 2017-02-25 11:20:06
unity's multitouch gestures work fine
ikonia 2017-02-25 11:20:11
there maybe overlay software if it doesn't (I'm guessing)
keks 2017-02-25 11:20:18
but scrolling doesnt...
c|oneman 2017-02-25 11:20:23
it's pretty amazing when I had a yoga, the touchscreen was great, and the trackpad was trash. HOw can they repeately put out lousy trackpads year after year, and then pull out a great touchscreen, relatively a new concept
keks 2017-02-25 11:21:10
yeah the trackpad is annoying, feels like it sometimes randomly jumps
momken_ 2017-02-25 11:34:35
momken hi
momken_ 2017-02-25 11:35:46
momken, hi again
momken 2017-02-25 11:37:31
momken_: hello
k1l_ 2017-02-25 11:38:10
momken: momken_ there is #tests
momken_ 2017-02-25 11:39:15
k1l_, Ok. thanks
kaosine 2017-02-25 11:55:48
ha that was a good exit message XD
z3 2017-02-25 11:59:54
useful defrag technique: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
RedPenguin 2017-02-25 11:59:55
Hey all
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:06:56
Any devs in here?
zerorax 2017-02-25 12:08:04
hi
RedPenguin 2017-02-25 12:08:52
unless I didn't make the crt file correctly
pierre_ 2017-02-25 12:09:22
hello everybody
RedPenguin 2017-02-25 12:09:43
I am not really sure how to take a p12 that contains the Certs and Key together
zerorax 2017-02-25 12:10:31
I'm interested in completely rewriting unity without compositor or fancy effects, but recreating the same APIs and app programming methods for interacting with it. Would anyone be interested in helping with the project? I think there's no reason unity needs to use more than 10-15mb of ram
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:10:42
It appears with the latest update that FULL RBG is enabled by default?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:10:42
Can anyone confirm?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:10:42
When I used to reboot I'd type: /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:10:42
Now that line does nothing.
keks 2017-02-25 12:10:42
RedPenguin: hang on, gonna search for p12
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:10:42
!patience | KenLL
ubottu 2017-02-25 12:10:42
KenLL: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
RedPenguin 2017-02-25 12:11:21
keks: thanks, I did do a lot of Googling for myself but I think I have been doing it all wrong
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:11:26
Is the Ubuntu Forum a better place to ask?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:11:36
I mean is the responsive better there?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:11:45
I thought the same devs would go there as here.
k1l_ 2017-02-25 12:12:00
KenLL: file a bug or ask an answer on launchpad.net
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:12:49
KenLL: you could wait longer than 3 minutes before asking again. You could also check what updates you did and then look at the changelog
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:12:59
I had big 145 MB update
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:13:43
that was the most recent one.
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:13:50
KenLL: you're saying that with HDMI the ones and zeros coming from the video source were dull and that you had to issue the above mentioned line to get satisfactory color reproduction?.....seems odd
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:13:50
tatertots, I'm saying that I used to type that line every time I booted. The screen would go blank, then come back with much better colors.
keks 2017-02-25 12:13:50
RedPenguin: so I found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/403174/convert-pfx-to-cer
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:13:50
This line: /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:13:50
Now when I type that nothing happens, so I wonder if it's being enabled by default since the latest update.
keks 2017-02-25 12:13:53
do that and put the .cer/.crt file to /etc/ssl/certs
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:14:35
How do I figure out which mode my xrandr is using?
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:14:45
KenLL: you can try to post in the forums but don't be surprised if the post grows dust and mold
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:15:00
tatertots, How come?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:15:21
tatertots, How come I use HDMI2 instead of HDMI1?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:15:26
My monitor has only 1 HDMI port.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:15:30
So why is it using HDMI2?
keks 2017-02-25 12:16:06
KenLL: xrandr --prop
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:16:12
KenLL: do you have 2 HDMI ports on your video card?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:16:26
Ah, I'm using RBG Full.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:16:38
It appears the latest Ubuntu update or kernel update has made it so that RGB FULL is being activated by default.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:16:41
I used to have to do this manually.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:16:53
Now what about why my monitor is using HDMI2 instead of HDMI1?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:17:02
It has just the one HDMI port. My comp has only 1 HDMI port as well.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:17:23
KenLL: maybe there is a second one that doesn't have a port on it?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:17:39
A second what?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:17:46
1 HDMI port on the monitor, 1 on the comp.
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:17:47
KenLL: may be there's an onboard and another offboard
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:17:53
KenLL: HDMI port
keks 2017-02-25 12:18:29
maybe its only accessible through a docking station
keks 2017-02-25 12:18:31
could be a lot of things
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:18:35
It's pretty clear my comp has just 1 HDMI port, and the monitor has just one HDMI port.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:18:55
KenLL: right, because video card manufactures have never just not added a second port in order to save money....
keks 2017-02-25 12:19:04
KenLL: hang on, i'll check my crystal sphere
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:19:31
tgm4883, My comp is an MSI Cubi. It has 1 displayport, 1 HDMI port.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:19:32
That's all.
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:19:33
KenLL: whatever your HDMI configuration is...
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:19:45
It has built-in Intel graphics.
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:19:53
probably there's nothing to do with your problem per se
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:20:04
But I feel I should be using HDMI1, not HDMI2.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:20:24
KenLL: does your mini display port show up as HDMI?
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:20:35
Sometimes, my laptop onboard WLAN lists as wlan1 instead of wlan0
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:20:37
You think that's mini display port is HDMI1?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:20:48
I'll try that display port. One moment.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:21:00
I don't think it really matters
keks 2017-02-25 12:21:11
yeah it doesn't matter at all
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:21:13
KenLL: open terminal
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:21:27
Any benefit to using mini display port to HDMI vs HDMI to HDMI?
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:21:28
tgm4883: yep, chances are high it does not...
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:21:41
but you seem super interested in this, so I'm going to go back to knocking people out and hiding their bodies in dumpsters
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:21:55
KenLL: in terminal> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep Out|nc termbin.com 9999
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:22:07
KenLL: press enter share url/link here
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:22:16
tgm4883, I'm trying to maximize the clarity and colors of my screen experience.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:22:53
http://termbin.com/h3l9
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:22:55
Here is what it says.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:23:13
Output HDMI2 using initial mode on pipe 0.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:23:15
Is that optimal?
keks 2017-02-25 12:23:34
yes
keks 2017-02-25 12:23:36
its perfect
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:23:45
Like I say, I used to type RGB = FULL when I rebooted and it made a big difference. Since the latest update I don't notice any difference when I type that
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:23:49
so I assume it's doing it automatically.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:24:56
keks, http://termbin.com/h3l9
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:24:58
There is the full result for your analysis.
FMan 2017-02-25 12:24:58
off to bed - good night hacking away with your ubuntus!
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:24:58
KenLL: in terminal> xrandr|nc termbin.com 9999
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:24:58
KenLL: press enter share url/link here
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:25:01
My laptop says there's DP and HDMI despite there's none, really... So, may be your controller supports two HDMI ports, but there's only one wired to HDMI 2 slot
keks 2017-02-25 12:25:38
KenLL: there is a way to run the HDMI protocol over displayport, maybe that is what HDMI1 is for
keks 2017-02-25 12:25:43
but it doesn't matter
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:26:36
keks, No idea.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:26:50
I just think it's strange that I have the only HDMI port on my computer hooked to the only HDMI on my monitor, and it shows as HDMI2.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:27:07
Why does it say: Output HDMI2 has no monitor section
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:27:15
but then it says: Output HDMI2 using initial mode 1920x1080 on pipe 0
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:27:15
KenLL: because it doesn't
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:27:30
tatertots, http://termbin.com/h3l9
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:27:32
see here.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:27:37
It says both those things.
keks 2017-02-25 12:27:44
it sais HDMI1 has no monitor section because there is no monitor attached to HDMI1
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:27:48
KenLL: and it really does not matter...these things to no work "linearly" like your thoughts
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:27:53
But also says HDMI2 has no monitor selection
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:28:01
KenLL: and it really does not matter...these things do not work "linearly" like your thoughts
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:28:01
before it says the other line about pipe 0.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:28:26
tatertots, If you say so. So my setup is fairly common?
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:28:32
KenLL: so don't think to hard about it....it's doing it's job...it's job is to produce a picture for your eyes...and its doing just that
keks 2017-02-25 12:28:38
its a monitor attached to a computer
keks 2017-02-25 12:28:42
yes its common
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:28:51
I'm not doing anything strange yet it's using HDMI2. However notice this output:
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:28:58
http://termbin.com/h3l9
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:29:03
KenLL: What's the deal with your ~video experience~?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:29:16
12.162] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI2 has no monitor section
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:29:17
12.162] (--) intel(0): Output HDMI2 using initial mode 1920x1080 on pipe 0
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:29:22
How can it say both those things?
keks 2017-02-25 12:29:23
you posted that link like ten thousand times now. we've all seen it. its fine
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:29:24
KenLL: we've already seen http://termbin.com/h3l9
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:29:27
They are mutually exclusive.
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:29:45
KenLL: if you're going to post links try the new one you've yet to post
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:29:54
tatertots, Which new one?
keks 2017-02-25 12:30:01
qed
keks 2017-02-25 12:31:26
KenLL: I guess it first checks for config files and then plug and play devices
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:31:48
KenLL: in terminal> xrandr|nc termbin.com 9999
keks 2017-02-25 12:32:09
there are no config files ("no monitor section") and then it finds the monitor via pnp
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:32:14
My monitor is straining my eyes and giving me a mild headache. It may be the monitor, but I want to be assured I have things functioning 100%. Like I say, when I used to type RBG = FULL it made a huge difference. Now that seems to be enabled by default.. so it looks like someone at Ubuntu listened to my feedback.
keks 2017-02-25 12:32:14
take
keks 2017-02-25 12:32:14
a
keks 2017-02-25 12:32:14
walk
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:32:14
Here you are, tatertots:
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:32:14
http://termbin.com/6blj
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:32:20
Anything interesting here?
keks 2017-02-25 12:32:35
i can't take it anymore
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:33:14
KenLL, perhaps you should be more specific... It could be the refresh rate, but I highly doubt it. My bet is that you spend too much time in front of that screen...
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:33:47
The easiest thing to try is to swap your display, if possible.
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:33:58
You know, just to test...
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:34:06
KenLL: looks normal
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:34:38
But it's for sure unrelated with the position of your HDMI port, it's number or the lunar phase...
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:34:47
prppedro, True, but like I say I used to type RBG = FULL and it made a huge difference. Before I figured that out I was using RGB = Limited without even knowing it. If I hadn't looked into things in great detail I'd never have known any better.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:34:51
I'd still be using Limited right now.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:35:08
Now it seems RBG = FULL is enabled by default in the very latest Ubuntu update package.
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:35:10
KenLL: you don't have to type that anymore...get over it
onys 2017-02-25 12:35:25
KenLL, try redshift-gtk or redshift-gui to dim the blue channel a bit, it helps me a lot, also darker themes
tatertots 2017-02-25 12:36:02
KenLL: i used to have to hand crank my ford model "T" just to start the engine...my new car...i don't have to do that anymore
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:36:41
tatertots, Yes, but changed only in the past day.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:37:35
Right up until today I always had to type RGB = FULL when I booted up or I'd be using Limited.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:37:55
KenLL: if you switch it to limited and then back to full, does anything change?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:38:25
tgm4883, I tried now this:
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:39:17
tatertots, It appears with the latest update not only is RGB = FULL enabed by default, but I can't make it "Limited" even if I tell it that in the command line.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:40:41
KenLL: the error message would be helpful
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:42:23
tgm4883, X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
prppedro 2017-02-25 12:43:59
KenLL: It's hard to tell, colour adjustment is something kinda personal... You should fiddle with the settings until you find a confortable point.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:43:59
tatertots, Just my guess to give you an idea of the magnitude of the improvement.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:43:59
I had literally been using my monitor for about 10 months on Limited mode because I didn't know any better.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:43:59
KenLL: try "Limited 16:235"
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:43:59
That did it. This is how I was using my monitor for 10 months before I stumbled into RGB = Full.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:43:59
It's much inferior.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:43:59
It appears one of the devs in here listened to my feedback and made RGB = FULL the default.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:43:59
Congratulations on that.
k1l_ 2017-02-25 12:43:59
KenLL: so what changed? sometimes when you change versions commands do change.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:43:59
KenLL: ok, so now it's worse when you set it to limited?
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:44:00
tgm4883, Absolutely. I believe RGB = FULL is now the default in the very latest Ubuntu update.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:44:00
KenLL: ok, so now do the full command again
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:44:00
I specifically made this request. I didn't know any devs were listening in here.
tgm4883 2017-02-25 12:44:36
honestly, it probably wasn't you asking in here about it. It was probably a bug fix in the automatic detection
k1l_ 2017-02-25 12:44:39
KenLL: there is no general changelog. they are noted for each package
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:45:18
I am in Broadcast RGB Full mode. I believe Automatic used to be the default.
KenLL 2017-02-25 12:45:18
Now with the latest update it actually goes beyond Automatic and sets Full.