RedPenguin 2017-02-26 10:22:10
guess the best way to move since server has no setting is a symbolic link?
k1l 2017-02-26 10:22:34
Butter: [ 1775.019532] EXT4-fs error (device sdc1): ext4_journal_check_start:56: Detected aborted journal
sergio_sokolov 2017-02-26 10:22:35
hi all
seaholm 2017-02-26 10:22:55
i have some problems connecting bluetooth headphones to my computer with ubuntu 16.10
sergio_sokolov 2017-02-26 10:22:59
I just have installed linux mint 18.1 :)
k1l 2017-02-26 10:23:07
Butter: fsck that filesystem on the usb
_28_ria 2017-02-26 10:23:15
ikonia: I've already explained 3 times. : After the unity process is restarted, while program GUI windows were open, if you minimize them, they disappear from the panel and alt+tab, but the process is still running.
sergio_sokolov 2017-02-26 10:23:47
Anybody use Hifiman HM-603 with linux?
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:23:49
_28_ria: yes, and you said you understand why they dissapear
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:24:02
_28_ria: why do they dissapear
Bashing-om 2017-02-26 10:24:02
!mint | sergio_sokolov
ubottu 2017-02-26 10:24:03
sergio_sokolov: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:24:23
or are you expecting a window manager to track window status after a restart
_28_ria 2017-02-26 10:25:35
ikonia: Of course, I expect it to track. The whole reason for restarting just the window manager without restarting the whole computer is, so that you don't have to reopen all the running programs.
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:25:42
then you have failed
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:26:00
if you are restarting a window manager it will lose track / state of the windows, because it is terminatiing
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:28:09
and being restarted
sergio_sokolov 2017-02-26 10:28:16
Boys, what are the best games for ubuntu? :)
rx-bad 2017-02-26 10:28:16
hello
sergio_sokolov 2017-02-26 10:28:41
hi
isene 2017-02-26 10:28:44
Any idea when Ubuntu will package QtWebEngine?
k1l 2017-02-26 10:29:16
!info QtWebEngine zesty
ubottu 2017-02-26 10:29:19
Package QtWebEngine does not exist in zesty
k1l 2017-02-26 10:29:48
!info QtWebEngine-examples zesty
ubottu 2017-02-26 10:29:49
Package QtWebEngine-examples does not exist in zesty
k1l 2017-02-26 10:30:05
!info QtWebEngine5-examples zesty
ubottu 2017-02-26 10:30:05
qtwebengine5-examples (source: qtwebengine-opensource-src): Qt WebEngine - Examples. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.7.1+dfsg-6build1 (zesty), package size 430 kB, installed size 2562 kB
MMA_sparring 2017-02-26 10:39:53
_28_ria, cool sound track, funny characters, fun "ballistics" and cool toilet dump songs!
OerHeks 2017-02-26 10:39:55
_28_ria, so you claim the processes are still running, but restarting a window manager it will lose track / state of the windows, your command 'unity' is not normal behaviour. there is a reason why this happens. find the cause of these glitches.
OerHeks 2017-02-26 10:40:54
memtest, fsck, update & reboot?
finex 2017-02-26 10:41:45
hi
finex 2017-02-26 10:42:02
can you use ubuntu mate for coding??
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:43:29
yes
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:44:30
you can use any linux distribution for "coding"
_28_ria 2017-02-26 10:55:11
ikonia: unity command does not 'oddly' start the WM over the running one. It restarts it. It used to be: 'unity --replace', now they deprecated the '--replace' parameter and say, that 'unity' should be run by itself, without this parameter now.
OerHeks 2017-02-26 10:55:17
_28_ria, so if you started: i play a game, it crashes and now my unity is not doing well, question the game?
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:55:31
_28_ria: right, so thats terimiating and restarting over the top
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:55:46
that is an odd approach
_28_ria 2017-02-26 10:55:55
OerHeks: So, do you suggest, to edit game's code, when I have other things to do?
_28_ria 2017-02-26 10:58:00
ikonia: yes, so what, the window processes are still in memory. There must be the way to scan the processes and find, which belong to windows, thus re-placing those windows back to the panel and alt+tab. P.S. Windows do appear on the panel and alt+tab until they are minimized.
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:58:10
_28_ria: how are they still in memory
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:58:15
you just killed the window manager
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:58:47
the window manager doesn't use a "state" file type technique
_28_ria 2017-02-26 10:59:01
ikonia: Try to do this yourself, and you will see
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:59:07
I'd be more concerned at why you have programs causing problems for your window manager
ikonia 2017-02-26 10:59:10
see what ?
RedPenguin 2017-02-26 10:59:51
I think I found a major cause of my space afterall
_28_ria 2017-02-26 10:59:58
ikonia: That windows stay there and that they appear in alt+tab and on panel. That is: until you minimize them.
RedPenguin 2017-02-26 11:00:01
I have an 18GB .xessions-errors.old file in /home
RedPenguin 2017-02-26 11:22:36
yea those are the bug reports I keep finding
RedPenguin 2017-02-26 11:22:54
I seen a person say they had 200GB a day in logs due to the error and another 27GB
k1l 2017-02-26 11:23:16
yes, that part of filling logs is already settled.
_28_ria 2017-02-26 11:23:26
ikonia: report bugs to programs, but some programs are abandoned and there is no alternative. Plus WM, also should improve, not only programs.
RedPenguin 2017-02-26 11:23:27
and I can swear Kodi was running when the drive filled up and crashed
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:23:45
_28_ria: it sounds like you're making a problem out of it, rather than dealing it
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:24:00
_28_ria: you said they where beta programs....now you say they are old programs that are abandond
yobagme 2017-02-26 11:24:00
RedPenguin: Can you link us to that forum post? I get python errors flood my syslog file when I try and use PlexKodiConnect addon. Fills my root drive within an hour
_28_ria 2017-02-26 11:33:20
ikonia: qemu, firefox, virtualbox. After conversing with you, I understood one thing. You like to argue. You don't suggest a solution. You just chat to waste time and argue. If somebody asks you a question, that is difficult, instead of saying. I don't know how how to do it, you just say: "No, it's impossible". Well, I believe, that nothing is impossible in computers,
_28_ria 2017-02-26 11:34:18
ikonia: just nobody came up with the solution, yet.
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:34:22
_28_ria: qemu is not a windowed software
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:34:27
_28_ria: I don't like to argue, however I appreciate a realistic view point to start from
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:34:27
_28_ria: firefox doesn't cause these problems for other people
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:34:27
_28_ria: so again, I'd question what you are stating as a problem and again question your solution
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:34:32
_28_ria: I also didn't say anything was impossible, I gave you 3 solutions pick one to focus on
_28_ria 2017-02-26 11:34:41
ikonia: All I was asking was, is there a utility, that can rescan processes for lost windows, but you started demagogy.
OerHeks 2017-02-26 11:34:50
..
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:35:02
_28_ria: "no"
grafdiffuzor 2017-02-26 11:35:32
t
OerHeks 2017-02-26 11:35:51
ikonia, shall we stop this running in circles? not worth the energy
_28_ria 2017-02-26 11:35:54
ikonia: so what that qemu is not a window software. You've asked me, which programs I've postted bugs reports, that still didn't get resolved, I've answared. The question was not about, which GUI programs I've posted bugs to that didn't get resolved.
_28_ria 2017-02-26 11:39:31
ikonia: I was stating, that most of the posted bug reports take way too long to resolve, while I need to keep using those progs. You've asked me which progs I've posted bug reports long time ago, but didn't get bugs resolved yet. I've answered.
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:39:49
_28_ria: I've had problems in qemu and kvm fixed within 8 days
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:40:08
_28_ria: I disagree on the time it takes, if you work with people (yes sometimes it can take longer than you'd like due to complications)
_28_ria 2017-02-26 11:40:12
ikonia: Maybe you've had some simple problems
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:40:18
_28_ria: no, not really,
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:40:43
quite complex, getting specific hardware emmulation into mainline branch to support mac OS for the hidden smc chip
ikonia 2017-02-26 11:41:02
also changes to the e1000 emulation
sliddis 2017-02-26 11:53:27
Hello I downloaded numix icon theme from github, put it in ~/.icons and then I can see both numix and numix light in unity tweak tool, but no icons change..?!
OerHeks 2017-02-26 11:54:49
sliddis, logout/login might fix this?
OerHeks 2017-02-26 11:55:27
sliddis, there is a PPA also, to install systemwide https://launchpad.net/~numix/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
RedPenguin 2017-02-26 12:02:45
looks like upgrade the two python packages in the bug report did for a fact work
RedPenguin 2017-02-26 12:02:51
upgrading*
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:08:05
Hi all, I'm having some issues after update, Ubuntu Mate 16.04. I get a freeze after login, desktop won't load, mouse doesn't move, keyboard flashes. The update log shows two kernels installed today, linux-headers-generic:amd64 (4.4.0.62.65, 4.4.0.64.68) etx. Could this cause an issue? Reverting to an older one in Grub works. I also have a grub issue...
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:13:07
http://pastebin.com/vbvYGu9A are the last 2 lines
k1l 2017-02-26 12:13:28
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:14:17
http://termbin.com/ckxc
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:14:35
Looks like the extras are missing
k1l 2017-02-26 12:14:48
uname -a?
k1l 2017-02-26 12:15:39
"dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
k1l 2017-02-26 12:16:55
and "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:16:57
http://termbin.com/4jw2
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:17:29
http://termbin.com/cec9
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:22:44
http://termbin.com/xi5g
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:23:33
The bit at the very end is from me manually updating from terminal in an attempt to fix
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:32:49
only the one warning from the log Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
k1l 2017-02-26 12:33:11
that is just a warning. doesnt break things
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:34:20
everything else looks fine
k1l 2017-02-26 12:34:34
there is no error so far. i guess you need to look at the old xorg logs from the last boot which didnt work
_pepe 2017-02-26 12:34:38
Oddly enough I could use a guest account on the new kernel but couldn't connect to wifi
k1l 2017-02-26 12:35:14
wait, its only your one user which didnt work?