sarbs_ 2017-02-23 06:45:12
Zythyr i got dc'ed so didn't see if you got an answer, but: https://serverfault.com/questions/261802/what-are-the-functional-differences-between-profile-bash-profile-and-bashrc
nacc 2017-02-23 06:46:13
winsen: i don't know what you mean
winsen 2017-02-23 06:47:20
nacc: is it really necessary to upgrade TB? in my case from 45.6.0 to 45.7.1
nacc 2017-02-23 06:47:48
winsen: define 'necessary'? are you willing to review it for if you're affected by bugs, etc.?
nacc 2017-02-23 06:47:59
winsen: and I don't know if there are CVEs
Southern_Gentlem 2017-02-23 06:48:14
winsen, of course TB really hasnt had that many updates the last couple of years
nacc 2017-02-23 06:48:28
winsen: what version of Ubuntu?
nacc 2017-02-23 06:48:39
winsen: I don't see any 45.7.1 in Ubuntu
Zythyr 2017-02-23 06:48:42
sarbs_ Thank u :)
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:48:45
after a software has been made using make, how is it converted to a package ?
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:48:46
after a software has been made using make, how is it converted to a package ?
nacc 2017-02-23 06:49:11
kierqueen: it's not converted to a package, per se, but the package building uses make
sarbs_ 2017-02-23 06:49:25
kierqueen http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
nacc 2017-02-23 06:49:27
kierqueen: you want to look at a debian source package -- and may wnat to take this to #ubuntu-devel
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:49:31
.deb ? how do we get there ?
winsen 2017-02-23 06:49:32
nacc: 16.04
nacc 2017-02-23 06:49:54
!info thunderbird xenial
ubottu 2017-02-23 06:49:56
thunderbird (source: thunderbird): Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter. In component main, is optional. Version 1:45.7.0+build1-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 36479 kB, installed size 100841 kB
davvvid 2017-02-23 06:50:02
I've got problem. I installed OpenVPN on my server via VNC. Now I cannot connect to the server either via putty or VNCViewer
nacc 2017-02-23 06:50:05
winsen: --^ 45.7.0
winsen 2017-02-23 06:50:09
nacc: 45.7.1 is the latest version of TB
nacc 2017-02-23 06:50:16
!latest | winsen
ubottu 2017-02-23 06:50:16
winsen: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
nacc 2017-02-23 06:50:32
winsen: and also, if it's a security update, it will come back
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:50:34
when we download a package we get .tar file
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:50:40
so ... then what
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:50:45
what's this .deb ?
nacc 2017-02-23 06:50:47
!details | kierqueen
ubottu 2017-02-23 06:50:47
kierqueen: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.
Southern_Gentlem 2017-02-23 06:51:03
kierqueen, how about reading the links your were given above
nacc 2017-02-23 06:51:04
kierqueen: please use the other channel I mentioned, and also give more information than that (a specific example)
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:51:05
yeah, even I am confused so can't elaborate
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:51:18
nacc which other channel?
OerHeks 2017-02-23 06:51:23
winsen, with normal updates you woud have 45.7 already https://launchpad.net/thunderbird
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:51:33
Southern_Gentlem: I was givne only one link
Southern_Gentlem 2017-02-23 06:52:03
and did you read it ?
nacc 2017-02-23 06:52:08
kierqueen: #ubuntu-devel
winsen 2017-02-23 06:52:15
OerHeks: what is the normal update? by terminal..?
nacc 2017-02-23 06:52:18
kierqueen: this isn't really a support discussion
OerHeks 2017-02-23 06:52:37
winsen, gui app, terminal, your choise.
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:52:57
Southern_Gentlem: yes
ducasse 2017-02-23 06:53:13
kierqueen: you must read very fast
Southern_Gentlem 2017-02-23 06:53:32
kierqueen, that shows you how to build a package step by step
kierqueen 2017-02-23 06:53:43
I don't use bazaar I use git but would try if it is necessary
winsen 2017-02-23 06:53:46
OerHeks: how to you update TB by terminal?
nacc 2017-02-23 06:53:52
Southern_Gentlem: ducasse: moved to #ubuntu-devel
Zythyr 2017-02-23 06:54:07
Need help. I am noob to shell commands. I want to list all the files in a directory that match the pattern "layer*block*.svg". How can I list them and sort it in alphabethical order
Southern_Gentlem 2017-02-23 06:54:09
nacc, inderstand
Southern_Gentlem 2017-02-23 06:54:17
understand
winsen 2017-02-23 06:54:27
OerHeks: how to you upgrade TB by terminal?
nacc 2017-02-23 06:54:33
Southern_Gentlem: was just an FYI, so I don't need to type twice :)
nacc 2017-02-23 06:54:39
winsen: I already told you how to do that.
anddam 2017-02-23 06:55:06
I'd like a setup where Xorg isn't started by default, should I install desktop and then disable gdm (and possibly other units) or install server and then Xorg on it?
OerHeks 2017-02-23 06:55:23
winsen, not, update all packages.
OerHeks 2017-02-23 06:56:06
winsen but you are on debian, ask them too?
winsen 2017-02-23 06:56:34
nacc: you mean by "apt install thunderbird"
nacc 2017-02-23 06:57:02
winsen: if there is an update for it and you ahve the corresponding repository enabled, then yes, that should upgrade just thunderbird (well, and its dependencies if any and if needed)
cfoch-always 2017-02-23 06:57:14
hi
winsen 2017-02-23 06:57:26
nacc: thank you
cfoch-always 2017-02-23 06:57:37
does sb know a live CD distro less than 700MB up-to-date?
akik 2017-02-23 06:57:40
Zythyr: it's just "ls -1 layer*block*.svg"
nicomachus 2017-02-23 06:57:58
might want an -a in there just to be safe ^
akik 2017-02-23 06:58:03
Zythyr: the -1 makes it output in one column
OerHeks 2017-02-23 06:58:04
cfoch-always, only Lubuntu fits on cd
OerHeks 2017-02-23 06:58:19
"up2date" no
winsen 2017-02-23 06:58:33
nacc: It's ok thanks all
cfoch-always 2017-02-23 06:58:39
OerHeks: is it live?
nicomachus 2017-02-23 06:58:54
is it.... live?
OerHeks 2017-02-23 06:58:54
cfoch-always, yes, install and live mode
cfoch-always 2017-02-23 06:59:00
the one which fits on a CD is live?
cfoch-always 2017-02-23 06:59:12
to be more specific ^
nicomachus 2017-02-23 06:59:26
cfoch-always: any OS booted from a cd/dvd/usb is live...
nicomachus 2017-02-23 06:59:36
live just means it's not installed on the hard disk of the machine that's booting it.
OerHeks 2017-02-23 06:59:59
nicomachus, correct, except * mini and server iso
Zythyr 2017-02-23 07:00:32
akik Thanks. let me try to see if it works
Zythyr 2017-02-23 07:02:34
akik It worked! HOwever, the listing of hte files is not in alphabehtical order. How do I make sure the filenames listed are sorted
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:02:48
Hello, I simply want to edit the hidden bash_profile file thou i can not find it in home directory i only find bashrc so what can i do ?
nacc 2017-02-23 07:03:01
Bash_John: are you using a GUI to look for files?
viral_mutant 2017-02-23 07:03:20
I am building a deb package. I need to include a bunch of service files into the package. I dumped all the files in debian directory
anddam 2017-02-23 07:03:21
Bash_John: if you want to edit a file that doesn't exist you just go and create it
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:03:23
no i am using terminal with root
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:03:35
doin all command
viral_mutant 2017-02-23 07:03:35
but it picks only the one which matches the name exactly
nacc 2017-02-23 07:03:36
viral_mutant: probalby want to ask in #ubuntu-devel
akik 2017-02-23 07:03:44
Zythyr: you can pipe the ls command output to sort i.e. ls | sort
nacc 2017-02-23 07:04:01
Bash_John: the file may not exist for all users (specifically for the root user)
viral_mutant 2017-02-23 07:04:06
nacc: ok. I asked on ubuntu-packaging, but I guess there are not enuf ppl
ducasse 2017-02-23 07:04:07
Bash_John: there is no .bash_profile by default
nacc 2017-02-23 07:04:19
viral_mutant: or it might take some time to respond
anddam 2017-02-23 07:05:31
non default graphic session anyone?
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:05:35
damn miss leading thread i read on your site then :/ witch file can i edit to update profile then (need to add bin directory)
nacc 2017-02-23 07:05:49
Bash_John: "your site"?
ducasse 2017-02-23 07:06:01
Bash_John: you can add it there, just create it
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:06:02
the site that i read that from ?
nacc 2017-02-23 07:06:12
Bash_John: you can always *create* a .bashrc as anddam and ducasse said
nacc 2017-02-23 07:06:25
Bash_John: we have no idea what you've read or where
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:06:40
well i find a .bashrc file thou it has data in it
nacc 2017-02-23 07:06:49
Bash_John: but also, if you don't know that you can create a .bashrc if it doesn't already exist, I'd be rather hesitant to suggest doing anything as root
anddam 2017-02-23 07:06:57
nacc: or why he's doing it as root
anddam 2017-02-23 07:07:05
ditto
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:08:02
well if now i cant do this i anyways will remove ubuntu so theres no point in being carefull
nacc 2017-02-23 07:08:21
Bash_John: what?
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:09:11
"if you don't know that you can create a .bashrc"
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:09:34
I know how to thou i do not know how to delete xD
nacc 2017-02-23 07:09:35
Bash_John: maybe start over. You are root and want to edit a ~/.bashrc file?
ducasse 2017-02-23 07:09:36
Bash_John: .bashrc should be there
ducasse 2017-02-23 07:09:54
Bash_John: .bash_profile you can create
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:09:56
na i am user and i do the su command
Guest83638 2017-02-23 07:10:02
:)
nacc 2017-02-23 07:10:09
Bash_John: you understand that su makes you root, right?
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:10:16
yes
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:10:37
thou i do not understand how it can be dangouruss :P
ducasse 2017-02-23 07:11:19
Bash_John: full control and access can't be dangerous?
compdoc 2017-02-23 07:11:24
you can delete or change permissions on all your files
Southern_Gentlem 2017-02-23 07:11:34
Bash_John, using su with root permissions means you have god powers and can totally remove everything on the hd
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:11:46
i have come to the conclution that everything in my home user folder i am suppose to have controll of and beond that i am not, so if i just follow thous rules when being root it should not mess anything
nacc 2017-02-23 07:12:05
Bash_John: if you are exclusively in your home folder, you don't need root at alL!
Southern_Gentlem 2017-02-23 07:12:18
Bash_John, examples please
WeiJunLi 2017-02-23 07:12:52
some useful kernel configs to enable when fuzzing?
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:13:05
ehm i do not tutch anything for example before the directory home/user
Southern_Gentlem 2017-02-23 07:13:24
Bash_John, what exactly is the issue
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:14:47
the exact issue is that i need to add paths to command line
Zythyr 2017-02-23 07:15:26
akik I did "ls -1 layer*block*.svg
Zythyr 2017-02-23 07:15:54
akik I did "ls -1 layer*block*.svg | sort". The resulting list is not sorted. The * is the ls command is a number
nacc 2017-02-23 07:16:09
Bash_John: you're not exaclty listening. It's bad practice to be root when you don't need to be. Also you might be changing the permissions/ownership of your home directory which can break things. Also, if you type the wrong command, as root, you can erase your hard drive. Don't be root unless you need to be.
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:16:23
so it can find executable files
neldogz 2017-02-23 07:16:50
Can I upgrade to the latest kernel on my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS release if I have Nvidia drivers installed from http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:16:59
ok well il just restart the terminal then
nacc 2017-02-23 07:17:00
Bash_John: if you just need it at the comamnd line, `export PATH=/path/to/add:$PATH`
Xundres 2017-02-23 07:17:56
how to launch a not truste launcher?
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:18:05
i have read that thou i do not exactly understand it what is the add:$PATH ?
Zythyr 2017-02-23 07:18:42
akik Actually I just noticed. Even the default "ls -1" list the file names, but they are not properly sorted. For example "layer_13_block_21.svg" comes before "layer_9_block_33.svg"
nacc 2017-02-23 07:18:43
neldogz: do you mean the latest trusty kernel? hwe stack?
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:19:07
the line i need to add is /home/john/voxforge/bin/htk/bin
OerHeks 2017-02-23 07:19:24
Xundres, can you repfrase that?
nacc 2017-02-23 07:19:25
!bash | Bash_John
ubottu 2017-02-23 07:19:25
Bash_John: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
nacc 2017-02-23 07:19:39
Bash_John: may want to read that to get an intro to the PATH variable
Xundres 2017-02-23 07:20:05
OerHeks: how to start an untrusted executable file
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:20:09
PATH=/home/john/voxforge/bin/htk/bin:$PATH or what ?
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:20:44
ah so path is a command
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:20:45
ok ok
nacc 2017-02-23 07:20:52
Bash_John: no, PATH is a variable.
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:21:07
i never understand the --help anyways but il check if i understand this one
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:22:09
"Doc, My brain hurt's"
brainwash 2017-02-23 07:22:13
Zythyr: change 9 to 09
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:22:23
"well we just have to take it out then"
OerHeks 2017-02-23 07:22:38
Xundres, i would not, but this page might be any help https://www.howtogeek.com/285595/how-do-you-safely-run-an-untrusted-executable-file-on-linux/
Xundres 2017-02-23 07:25:23
OerHeks: ty
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:25:46
I seem to just needed to read some few lines, i alreaddy knew pipe interface and shell
Zythyr 2017-02-23 07:27:25
akik brainwash Okay i fixed hte issue. I have to use "ls -v -1". THe -v does natrual sort
Bash_John 2017-02-23 07:28:40
Ok now i know, You have been a great help :D your parrents should be prowd :)
montem 2017-02-23 07:29:18
hey, can someone suggest me some good terminal emulators for ubuntu, just like iTerm for OSX
jdfsajd 2017-02-23 07:29:41
hi
jdfsajd 2017-02-23 07:29:45
i need help
nicomachus 2017-02-23 07:29:50
montem: xterm
OerHeks 2017-02-23 07:31:51
montem, standard gnome-terminal is fine
jdfsajd 2017-02-23 07:32:19
I installed ubuntu on my chomebook (acer r11) with crouton, but when i type "sudo startunity" the screen goes black and comes back to this: http://pastebin.com/L1k4XLAP
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:32:24
Is there a reason why the left click stops working for some time then eventually works again. Ubuntu 16.04
OerHeks 2017-02-23 07:32:37
jdfsajd, you might want to reask in #crouton
montem 2017-02-23 07:32:37
nicomachus: i am searching the web for terminal emulator many are suggesting Termintor. so, which one is better?
nacc 2017-02-23 07:32:37
montem: that's an opinion, it depends on what you want/need.
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:32:37
montem, Hyperterm is coolish
nicomachus 2017-02-23 07:33:23
montem: standard gnome-terminal, xterm, Hyperterm, Termintor, whatever. They all work. The rest is up to you, we can't help with your aesthetic decisions.
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:33:48
I use the default term with zsh + ohmyzsh :)
montem 2017-02-23 07:33:55
nacc: i use linux as parallel desktop in OSX. So, i am not regular user of ubuntu terminal, but i want multiple window or tab.
OerHeks 2017-02-23 07:34:08
standard gnome-terminal is best :-) and has tabs
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:34:16
^
montem 2017-02-23 07:34:43
OerHeks: ok i will try gnome-terminal, thanks
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:34:48
tabs is nice.
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:35:08
Is gnome-term on ubuntu as default?
nicomachus 2017-02-23 07:35:20
yes
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:35:29
I run that and no tabs :(
nicomachus 2017-02-23 07:36:11
Edit -> Preferences -> "Open new terminal in [Tabs]"
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:36:23
ah thank you kind sir nicomachus
OerHeks 2017-02-23 07:36:45
ctrl SHIFT t opens new tab
OerHeks 2017-02-23 07:36:57
ctrl ALT t new terminal, easy to remember
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:37:01
You would think that would be a default. Thanks
nicomachus 2017-02-23 07:37:28
OerHeks: plebs. gotta change that shortcut to ALT+T. Less fingers needed. :D
montem 2017-02-23 07:38:18
nix_: i think OerHeks talking about terminal comes with gnome-ubuntu
nicomachus 2017-02-23 07:38:34
5~
OerHeks 2017-02-23 07:38:36
montem, = gnome-terminal
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:38:50
Yeah, If I run gnome-terminal it's the one I use, the default terminal.
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:39:49
But is there and explanation why the left click suddenly stops working, and then eventually comes back?
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:40:26
I guess I could try and throw my mouse around a bit?
nicomachus 2017-02-23 07:40:50
nix_: have you tried another mouse?
ducasse 2017-02-23 07:41:38
nicomachus: change battery if wireless mouse
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:41:46
wired
ducasse 2017-02-23 07:41:48
nix_: ^^
nicomachus 2017-02-23 07:41:48
that too, nix_ ^
OerHeks 2017-02-23 07:42:09
What happened to dirty mouse sanctuary?
nix_ 2017-02-23 07:42:40
I will try the mouse on another ubuntu install I have to see if it's the mouse or something else. Thanks