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Friday, March 3, 2017

#ubuntu channel featuring CarlFK, dax, MonkeyDust, nacc, i7ch, k1l, and 20 others.

blackrabbit 2017-03-03 05:45:12
CarlFK, thank you, but I am perl guy. cargi was asking about python
blackrabbit 2017-03-03 05:45:42
I was just translating what he said
frib 2017-03-03 05:45:46
EriC^^, i exceuted those commands
CarlFK 2017-03-03 05:45:53
blackrabbit: yeah.. wasn't sure who was doing what. cargi left :(
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:45:54
frib: ok, sudo chroot /mnt
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:45:59
frib: then mount -a
CarlFK 2017-03-03 05:46:01
ah, that makes sense. well thank you for that
frib 2017-03-03 05:46:16
EriC^^, ok
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:46:49
frib: mount | grep /dev/sda1 does it say mounted on /boot/efi ?
frib 2017-03-03 05:46:56
EriC^^, btw i was also able to use the main disk's grub to boot the usb and tried to install grub from within the installation itself but it didn't work, maybe i did it wrong
frib 2017-03-03 05:47:12
EriC^^, no it doesn't
frib 2017-03-03 05:47:19
from within chroot?
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:47:45
frib: ok, (blkid /dev/sda1; cat /etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:47:48
yes
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:47:59
typo, /dev/sdb1
frib 2017-03-03 05:48:43
http://termbin.com/4nn2
frib 2017-03-03 05:48:55
http://termbin.com/yn05
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:49:33
frib: did you run mount -a?
frib 2017-03-03 05:49:38
yea
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:50:02
ok, try mount /boot/efi
frib 2017-03-03 05:50:26
/dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /boot/efi
frib 2017-03-03 05:50:37
is busy
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:50:44
oh crap, i made a typo earlier :)
frib 2017-03-03 05:50:51
its all good
JokesOnYou77 2017-03-03 05:50:52
What is the difference between the kernel packages that end with -edge and those that do not?
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:50:59
nevermind, try "grub-install"
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:51:04
then update-grub
nacc 2017-03-03 05:51:16
JokesOnYou77: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack
frib 2017-03-03 05:51:17
ok done
nacc 2017-03-03 05:51:48
JokesOnYou77: iirc, -edge will mean you will get the next HWE whenever it is availalbe, but before it is released
dax 2017-03-03 05:51:50
JokesOnYou77: -edge kernels are newer versions that are planned to be released normally and are available early for people who want to do testing on them
frib 2017-03-03 05:52:03
even though I dont think this will work because the problem is with EFI not grub, but what do i know! :)
frib 2017-03-03 05:52:10
should i try to boot it?
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:52:37
frib: yeah type exit and reboot
frib 2017-03-03 05:52:42
ok brb
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:52:44
then try with f9 when the pc boots
frib 2017-03-03 05:52:48
yup
EriC^^ 2017-03-03 05:52:54
and choose usb uefi etc
JokesOnYou77 2017-03-03 05:54:17
If the *-edge kernels are supposed to be newer, why it linux-generic-hwe-16.04 4.8.0.39.10 while -edge is 4.8.0.34.6 ?
nacc 2017-03-03 05:55:41
JokesOnYou77: sounds like something to ask in #ubuntu-kernel :)
Zythyr 2017-03-03 06:00:00
Need help. After installing Nvidia drivers on my Ubuntu 16.04, the /dev/fb0 device is no longer present. What do I need to do to get /dev/fb0 to reappear?
Dreaman 2017-03-03 06:03:51
http://prikachi.com/images.php?images/27/9056027F.png 8k :)
Dreaman 2017-03-03 06:04:21
Zythyr see my
MonkeyDust 2017-03-03 06:04:48
Dreaman do you have a question or suggestion to help?
Dreaman 2017-03-03 06:05:04
no
Dreaman 2017-03-03 06:05:11
thenks
gambl0re 2017-03-03 06:11:01
how do i exit nano editor
ouroumov 2017-03-03 06:11:11
CTRL+X
dimisdas 2017-03-03 06:11:11
control+x
gambl0re 2017-03-03 06:11:12
i tried ctrl + O and ctrl + X
gambl0re 2017-03-03 06:11:14
i did that
ouroumov 2017-03-03 06:11:26
You then have to follow instructions
gambl0re 2017-03-03 06:11:30
it keeps asking for "filename to rewrite
gambl0re 2017-03-03 06:11:31
"
dimisdas 2017-03-03 06:11:35
y or n
dimisdas 2017-03-03 06:11:38
then enter
k1l 2017-03-03 06:11:45
gambl0re: it asks you to save then. type y(es) or (n)o
ouroumov 2017-03-03 06:11:46
Confirm whether to save and to what filename.
gambl0re 2017-03-03 06:12:01
it doesnt ask to confirm anything
BarnabasDK 2017-03-03 06:12:02
gambl0re and stay away from vi for now
gambl0re 2017-03-03 06:12:12
it automatically went in nano
yeeve 2017-03-03 06:14:21
gambl0re, have you actually changed any of the content of the file?
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:14:30
hi all, how can i have two machines that are updating from the same repo (an internal repo), new ones show 14.04.5 and old ones show 14.04.3 ? kernel is the same... what package is making this change ?
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:14:53
base-files
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:15:00
dpkg -S /etc/os-release
BarnabasDK 2017-03-03 06:15:28
+1 alkisg
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:15:46
alkisg: both the same :/
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:16:02
7.2ubuntu5.5
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:16:02
forehelp: /etc/os-release is the same in both machines?
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:16:13
forehelp: is that linux mint?
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:16:26
alkisg: yes same both
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:16:38
forehelp: linux mint is horribly broken and not supported here...
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:16:39
!mint
ubottu 2017-03-03 06:16:40
Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:16:41
Hello dear gentlemen and ladies :<
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:16:42
ubuntu 14.04 not mint
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:17:07
alkisg: its not mint
yeeve 2017-03-03 06:17:10
forehelp, are you wanting both machines to end up on 14.04.5?
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:17:23
forehelp: run md5sum /etc/os-release in both files, is it the same?
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:17:26
*in both machines
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:17:27
no
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:17:35
i want them to stay in .3
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:17:46
Is right now a suitable time to ask a few questions about ubuntu 16.04? :p
k1l 2017-03-03 06:17:47
forehelp: does "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" still want to install updates?
k1l 2017-03-03 06:17:56
Irreparable: just ask
yeeve 2017-03-03 06:18:04
Irreparable, there's never a good time :P ask away
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:18:08
alkisg: yes, both the same
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:18:33
forehelp: I don't get it, if they're the same files, where do you see that one is 14.04.5 and the other 14.04.3? That information is from that file.
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:18:48
lsb_release -a
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:18:56
and on /etc/motd
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:19:45
Been trying to do a dual boot install of ubunto 16.04 alongside windows 10 - after having issues with a black screen/no activity screen for an hour or two, my googlefoo taught me that it's apparently a issue that can be fixed with "nomodeset" (that was after I reinstalled the iso like 6 times thinking it was the issue...)
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:19:56
forehelp: $ dpkg -S /etc/lsb-release
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:19:56
base-files: /etc/lsb-release
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:20:05
Are those files the same too?
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:21:52
No I got it to boot up properly - in UEFI mode - but when I told it to install it said something along the lines of that windows was installed via the BIOS setting and if I ran linux as UEFI I might not be able to boot windows 10 anymore - so I tried installing ubuntu via BIOS too, but now I get a screen with a - what seems to be keyboard = accessibility setting - for like 10 seconds and after
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:21:53
that it's back to "No signal land" again
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:22:03
make that "no" a "now"
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:22:04
:v
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:23:16
installing ubuntu server on a vm was easier than this and I did that the first time ever today too <_<
NoCode 2017-03-03 06:23:37
Running Mate in Ubuntu, I've just noticed a zombie process right as I restart my computer. What should I do?
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:23:52
Kill it with fire? :p
NoCode 2017-03-03 06:24:24
Well, I tried to kill it... But I logged out.
MonkeyDust 2017-03-03 06:24:31
NoCode nothing, a zombie i already dead
MonkeyDust 2017-03-03 06:24:42
NoCode ignore it
NoCode 2017-03-03 06:24:52
So it's something based within my MATE DE,
MonkeyDust 2017-03-03 06:25:24
NoCode no, it occurs in all distro's, flavours etc
NoCode 2017-03-03 06:25:38
MonkeyDust, What does?
k1l 2017-03-03 06:25:47
NoCode: what zombie process?
NoCode 2017-03-03 06:26:18
I think it's related to python3. But I'm not sure.
MonkeyDust 2017-03-03 06:26:26
NoCode https://www.howtogeek.com/119815/htg-explains-what-is-a-zombie-process-on-linux/
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:26:34
alkisg: guess something is confusing here, now both show .5 will run some more tests
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:26:59
np
NoCode 2017-03-03 06:27:45
Z 1737 1946 python3
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:28:05
forehelp: note that lsb is somewhat deprecated and not many distros have it, most do have /etc/os-release though
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:28:39
alkisg: got in another machine a 14.04.1 (7.2ubuntu5.1 base-files) and on the .5 a (7.2ubuntu5.5 base-files)
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:28:47
so that sounds about right on the change
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:28:51
but the kernel is the same
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:29:29
forehelp: well, you just did a partial upgrade there :)
k1l 2017-03-03 06:29:36
forehelp: the pointrelease is not a real realease like 16.10 or 17.04. its more like a servicepack on windows. just the sum of all updates.
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:30:38
My question pretty much is, if I install ubunto in UEFI mode while Windows 10 is installed in BIOS mode, will I still be able to boot Windows 10? (My MB apparently has 2 options: BIOS only and Legacy + UEFI)
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:31:22
-o +u
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:31:30
alkisg: thats the thing i am not updating kernels atm, i want them all in the same version so everything should be a 14.04.1
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:32:13
forehelp: why do not want to update the systems?
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:32:24
somehow it seems this base-files package on new install is then obviously getting the latest version, but keeping the old kernel and informing me it is a 14.04.5 when "it is only partially"
alkisg 2017-03-03 06:32:28
Updates fix security issues etc
OerHeks 2017-03-03 06:33:05
forehelp, reading back, i guess you don't have the same kernels on those machines..
k1l 2017-03-03 06:33:08
forehelp: that doesnt make sense to want to keep them on 14.04.1
dimisdas 2017-03-03 06:33:39
Irreparable: the two OSes' boot modes should match
k1l 2017-03-03 06:33:50
forehelp: if you just run the updates a 14.04 will always stay on 3.13 kernel.
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:34:12
k1l: i got 3.13.0-101-generic on all
sdfsffasfsdf 2017-03-03 06:34:23
Guys can someone help me with this?
sdfsffasfsdf 2017-03-03 06:34:25
https://imgur.com/a/ajpfP
i7ch 2017-03-03 06:35:03
hello people
k1l 2017-03-03 06:35:05
forehelp: yes, there are updates to the 3.13 kernel base. look at ubuntu.com/usn
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:35:35
k1l: OerHeks alkisg this is ok for me , i was just worried other ubuntu version was being installed
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:35:35
but aparently not
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:36:04
its just the case that on older systems the base-files is not being updated
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:36:08
when on new ones it is
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:36:56
k1l: 3.13.0-101.148 to be more exact
forehelp 2017-03-03 06:37:16
i do understand it is old, however i do have to keep that one for the time being
i7ch 2017-03-03 06:38:09
right now i`m on 16.04 and i`m having this damn error i can`t figure out: systemctl systemd-modules-load.service has failed.
i7ch 2017-03-03 06:38:21
and for the life of me i can`t figure out why
fsdfsdf 2017-03-03 06:39:41
guys can someone help me with this error?
fsdfsdf 2017-03-03 06:39:42
https://imgur.com/a/F3Ijk
dimisdas 2017-03-03 06:40:40
i7ch: try "sudo systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service" and link the output
rrichardsr3 2017-03-03 06:41:33
I have a project where we deploy our application to ubuntu. It uses github to pull the code down to the servers. We have ssh-forwarding enabled so github looks at our local keys in order to authorize pulling the code. I had to recently spin up an older ubuntu server AMI at amazon and it seems that somewhere these keys are being cached because nobody can
rrichardsr3 2017-03-03 06:41:33
deploy. They get the 'permission denied' from github. My keys still work. Is there anywhere on ubuntu that would cache or save keys used with ssh-forwarding? these people can still ssh into the server however. Very strange.
fsdfsdf 2017-03-03 06:42:44
can someone help me?
fsdfsdf 2017-03-03 06:42:45
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fsdfsdf 2017-03-03 06:42:45
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i7ch 2017-03-03 06:42:45
dimisdas, failed (result: exit-code)
i7ch 2017-03-03 06:42:50
status=1/failure
fsdfsdf 2017-03-03 06:43:03
can someone help me? https://imgur.com/a/F3Ijk
i7ch 2017-03-03 06:43:04
sorry, can`t link. i only have cli on that machine
Irreparable 2017-03-03 06:44:09
dimisdas: I feared as much, thank you for the information, guess I'll have to step up my googlefoo some more, lol
i7ch 2017-03-03 06:44:14
dimisdas, failed (result: exit-code) status=1/failure