ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:48:23
Its 2003 all over again ^_^'
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:48:36
My touch screen works though!!!
sintre 2017-03-07 19:49:39
idleworker start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:50:11
sintre, what will I be getting backports of?
sintre 2017-03-07 19:50:25
upgraded packages of everything
sintre 2017-03-07 19:50:34
programs drivers ect.
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:50:40
isn't 16.04 the latest ubuntu?
sintre 2017-03-07 19:50:47
no
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:50:50
LTS?
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 19:50:52
IdleOne, IF and only if such things were backports
sintre 2017-03-07 19:50:57
that lts long term support release
sintre 2017-03-07 19:51:20
but most programs and other major things can be upgraded
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:51:21
wait I'm confused. the LTS release doesn't have the drivers but some other non-LTS release does?
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:51:32
And I should use backports to get the drivers. Correct?
sintre 2017-03-07 19:52:00
newer version are work in progress long term support releases are just that meaning they';ll be supported long term software and all
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:52:22
sintre, also this is just liveboot. do you know what recovery option lotuspsychje was talking about
sintre 2017-03-07 19:52:47
i honestly wasn't paying attention to your chat with that user
sintre 2017-03-07 19:52:55
so i couldn't tell you
sintre 2017-03-07 19:53:08
and honestly i still don't know what your main problem is
sintre 2017-03-07 19:53:15
want to articulate it for me
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:53:42
sintre, Oh I accidentally let my laptop lose power when doing do-dist-updrade or whatever the exact command was
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:53:46
from 14.04 to 16.04
ldleworker 2017-03-07 19:54:00
and then it wouldn't boot saying it couldn't find /sbin/init
manish_ 2017-03-07 20:06:31
what is the best way to learn bash scripting ?
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:06:39
ask #bash manish_
anddam 2017-03-07 20:09:32
also check ##best
vlt 2017-03-07 20:09:36
sintre: it happens on ALL machines!
vlt 2017-03-07 20:09:45
sintre: I hadn't realized this before.
sintre 2017-03-07 20:10:26
vtt what is your firefox version
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:11:54
sintre, hmm how will I get the backports if I can't connect to the internet
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:11:59
Should I skip 16.04...?
sintre 2017-03-07 20:12:26
why can't you get on the internet?
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:12:29
ldleworker, backports are the least of your issues. your present system is borked. reinstall it
vlt 2017-03-07 20:12:47
sintre: 52.0+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:12:58
cfhowlett, sure, the question is what version of ubuntu install...
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:13:13
ldleworker, LTS. choose one.
vlt 2017-03-07 20:13:15
sintre: There seems to have happened an (automatic) upgrade last night from 51* to 52*.
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:13:18
cfhowlett, if 14.04 is the last version that works out of the box it seems bad idea to upgrade
sintre 2017-03-07 20:13:20
16.04.2 will work fine
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:13:29
sintre, I'm running that in live usb right now
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:13:34
no network devices found
sintre 2017-03-07 20:13:37
and sinse its on your stick just use that to install after you backup
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:13:43
...
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:13:57
it doesn't find the network card.
sintre 2017-03-07 20:14:02
16.10 won't fix that
sintre 2017-03-07 20:14:11
you need to figure out the network
vlt 2017-03-07 20:14:11
How can I revert the Firefox upgrade that happened last night on my Ubuntu 16.04 machines?
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:14:25
sintre, I know what network I wanna connect to.
sintre 2017-03-07 20:14:50
plug it into a physical router thru a cat five cable
sintre 2017-03-07 20:15:00
stop worrying about the wifi now
sintre 2017-03-07 20:15:24
and btw your stick can install it , it doesn't need the internet
sintre 2017-03-07 20:15:50
in fact my advice is DON'T install upgrades thru the inter while upgrading to avoid problems such as your having
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:16:01
dude not all laptops have ethernet these days
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:16:06
like this one
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:16:06
***this*** +!
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:16:07
vlt: its not recommended to revert packages to older ones
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:16:28
cfhowlett, ?
geirha 2017-03-07 20:16:47
vlt: you can install a specific package version with apt-get install =
sintre 2017-03-07 20:16:48
well if you bought some crappy revived version of a netbook nothing i can do for you
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:16:53
ldleworker, do not do a hot upgrade. clean install. as sintre suggested
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:17:02
cfhowlett, please stop repeating the same advice
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:17:10
I am willing to do a full install.
vlt 2017-03-07 20:17:10
lotuspsychje: 46 users would like to run firefox now.
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:17:21
I want to. Not to a version of ubuntu that has no drivers for my wifi card.
sintre 2017-03-07 20:17:23
idleworker if you won't let us help you we can't
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:17:35
lol how am I preventing you from helping me?
geirha 2017-03-07 20:17:38
vlt: won't stop it from being automatically being upgraded again though, but hopefully there's a fixed version by then
vlt 2017-03-07 20:17:39
geirha: Thank you. How to find out the exact version string?
geirha 2017-03-07 20:17:57
apt-cache policy packagename
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:18:01
by reporting the details of the situation? you just acknoweldged that you understood the problem and that you can't help/
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:18:10
seems unnessecary to accuse me of being difficult :(
sintre 2017-03-07 20:18:35
yes i'm a idiot and your the one who has every exuse not to do what has been suggested
sintre 2017-03-07 20:18:43
i'm done helping you
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:18:49
I didn't say you were an idiot?!
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:19:05
I said you acknowledged my problem
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:19:07
" well if you bought some crappy revived version of a netbook nothing i can do for you"
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:19:11
Thanks...
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:19:13
sintre: please remain calm and polite in support
sintre 2017-03-07 20:19:40
nothing left for me to say so no problem
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:19:50
lotuspsychje, is the problem as bad as sintre says?
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:20:00
That if 16.04 doesn't have drivers for my wifi I'm screwed?
sintre 2017-03-07 20:20:14
i never aid that
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:20:41
ldleworker: you cant generalize things too quickly, we find solutions in many cases
vlt 2017-03-07 20:20:44
geirha: policy only shows the current 52* version of firefox and one 45*. How to get back the version 51* that worked perfectly fine until yesterday?
sintre 2017-03-07 20:20:45
i said 16.04 is a lts release and is fully capable of supporting it
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:20:47
" well if you bought some crappy revived version of a netbook nothing i can do for you"
sintre 2017-03-07 20:21:25
that was in reference to your exuse of not being able to hook your netbook up to a router via hard wire
aavrug 2017-03-07 20:21:28
Hey folks any solution for this Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/zlib1g-dev_1%3a1.2.8.dfsg-2ubuntu4_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)?
geirha 2017-03-07 20:21:29
vlt: Hm, that would mean it's gone from the repo already
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:21:37
sintre, which is absolutely true. It has no ethernet.
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:21:49
vlt: instead messing with older versions, help the community and start a new firefox bug?
geirha 2017-03-07 20:21:55
vlt: /var/cache/apt/archives may still have the previous deb
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:21:58
So I'm confused as to how to get wifi or any kind of networking, if 16.04 doesn't have it out of the box.
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:22:07
or 16.10, etc etc
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:22:21
ldleworker: some systems need driver tuning before work
sintre 2017-03-07 20:22:24
i have a 14 year old notebook and 216.04 picks it up
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:22:40
sintre, how does that help?
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:22:41
ldleworker: like installing restricted-extras for example
sintre 2017-03-07 20:22:47
16.04 and a new 6 month old notbook and its wifi can be picked up by 116.04
sintre 2017-03-07 20:22:54
something else is going on there
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:22:55
lotuspsychje, how can I install that. Would it be on the USB drive?
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:23:10
nope. :(
sintre 2017-03-07 20:23:11
and somebody else is going to have to help you with it
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:23:11
ldleworker: first tell us wich chipset your wifi is?
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:23:30
lotuspsychje, do you know the command to figure that out? Something lspci?
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:23:50
ldleworker: sudo lshw -C network
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:23:58
looks like Broadcom Corporation BCM4352
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:24:11
ldleworker: chipset and driver= loaded?
sintre 2017-03-07 20:24:29
!pastebin
ubottu 2017-03-07 20:24:29
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cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:24:57
full instructions for installing broadcom 43** wifi support: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:25:03
sintre, doesn't say anything like that. says `configuration: driver=bcma-pci-bridge"
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:25:19
cfhowlett, nice!
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:25:58
ldleworker: but before you try to install wifi, wasnt you going for a data backup first and clean install?
vlt 2017-03-07 20:26:02
lotuspsychje: First I have to let people work here.
vlt 2017-03-07 20:26:30
lotuspsychje: I already used the "send crash report to mozilla" function.
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:26:39
lotuspsychje, the data is copying to the usb drive right now
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:26:48
vlt, might a workaround be in order until ffox gets sorted? chromium-browser works well
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:26:51
lotuspsychje, I'm trying to figure out if an upgrade to 16.04 is tennable. If not I'll reinstall 14.04.
hateball 2017-03-07 20:27:23
vlt: does it crash with new profiles as well?
hateball 2017-03-07 20:27:28
vlt: Firefox, that is
hateball 2017-03-07 20:27:50
I'm thinking if it's related to the removal of npapi support for stuff other than flash
vlt 2017-03-07 20:27:57
cfhowlett: Installing right now on all servers. The speed of the repo server is terrible :-/ What a morning!
vlt 2017-03-07 20:28:06
cfhowlett: Thanks, btw.
vlt 2017-03-07 20:28:19
hateball: Checking that ...
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:28:28
vlt, wait whut? you have - 46 servers? I would think setting your mirror would be a high priority?
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:28:48
happy2help!
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:29:17
cfhowlett, hmm, I'm not exactly sure what the page wants me to do
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:29:28
it seems the kernel driver "bcma-pci-bridge" is loaded
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:29:40
ldleworker, you do not have internet access. use the "no internet access" option
vlt 2017-03-07 20:29:49
cfhowlett: It's six servers in six locations, so a local mirror doesn't make very much sense.
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:29:59
vlt, fair enough
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:30:00
cfhowlett, ah so get the proprietary drivers installed. Got it!
untoreh 2017-03-07 20:30:01
when a loop device gets partitioned, partitions are not updated and partx must be called manually, how to fix this ?
vlt 2017-03-07 20:31:24
cfhowlett: The repo bandwidth is equally 175 kB/s for all my current apt processes :-D (using sync'ed tmux panes)
vlt 2017-03-07 20:31:56
cfhowlett: And the worst part is: There's isn't much working going on right now :/
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:32:15
vlt, you should share this is #ubuntu-server. I would bet they have some nifty solutions
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:32:30
vlt: i would suggest a new firefox bug
vlt 2017-03-07 20:32:59
lotuspsychje: As soon as the last of my users has a working browser running.
lotuspsychje 2017-03-07 20:33:00
vlt: if more users encounter this problem, you will help the community
vlt 2017-03-07 20:34:34
Any idea why there's not a single deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives?
sintre 2017-03-07 20:36:56
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=firefox
cfhowlett 2017-03-07 20:36:56
vlt, because you ran sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoclean
sintre 2017-03-07 20:36:56
manual report goes alot further then just a auto bug report
guest4385030 2017-03-07 20:36:56
iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -s ! 192.168.0.2 -j ACCEPT , error can not have ! before -j ?
ldleworker 2017-03-07 20:40:15
nice I got it working
vlt 2017-03-07 20:41:08
Where can I find a deb file of the latest working firefox 51* to install manually?
sintre 2017-03-07 20:42:01
https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Install-and-Update/Install-Firefox-on-Linux/ta-p/2516
sintre 2017-03-07 20:42:30
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
EriC^^ 2017-03-07 20:44:27
vlt: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
vlt 2017-03-07 20:44:56
EriC^^: Thanks!
EriC^^ 2017-03-07 20:45:02
vlt: np