mantise 2017-03-05 05:50:29
Hi
mantise 2017-03-05 05:52:54
i need guidance :) im about to install lts on my stationary (gamer pc). which desktop should i chose ? been reading reviews about unity, gnome and kde. i want one of those.
mozza77 2017-03-05 05:53:18
mantise: anything specific you're looking for ?
mantise 2017-03-05 05:54:21
i think the unity menu is a bit boring and old ish looking. but it should also be fast and stable. thinking i could install ubuntu and then install gnome on it, as dual desktop. To try them both
k1l_ 2017-03-05 05:54:33
mantise: ask 3 people and get 5 opinions :) so best is to test it your own
mantise 2017-03-05 05:54:34
but KDE looks more up to date
mantise 2017-03-05 05:55:02
yeah well, insted of make 3 installs :D i just wanted other people opinions, why to chose kde or gnome :)
mozza77 2017-03-05 05:55:25
Installing them isn't a big hassle if you really wanna get a feel for them
k1l_ 2017-03-05 05:55:55
mantise: you can make a live usb of kubuntu and test it, and then make one with ubuntu(-gnome) and test that.
mantise 2017-03-05 05:56:14
think the overview within KDE is very good. menus ect
k1l_ 2017-03-05 05:56:25
mantise: its really about what you like or prefer. they all 3 work as desktops
mantise 2017-03-05 05:56:32
so i just run it from usb to test it ? :)
k1l_ 2017-03-05 05:56:58
mantise: yes, you can choose "live desktop without install" on the usb boot on all isos.
idef1x 2017-03-05 05:57:31
I use KDE even on my sasung n210 netbook from 2010..KDE just works finest for me ..and has kdeconnect :)
idef1x 2017-03-05 05:57:40
sasung = samsung
mozza77 2017-03-05 05:58:09
I know you don't really need a reason, but is there any? About not wanting to try all 3 on the same ubuntu install
mantise 2017-03-05 05:58:45
ive been reading some tests. the one from hecticgeek, think you all read them
k1l_ 2017-03-05 05:58:50
to me it sounds like he already made the decision for kubuntu but wants us to justify it now :)
mantise 2017-03-05 05:59:03
so i can install ubuntu
mantise 2017-03-05 05:59:13
then do a apt-get install gnome and kde ?
mozza77 2017-03-05 05:59:17
:D Not a KDE user but I won't stand in the way of someone and their KDE
mantise 2017-03-05 05:59:26
try them and remove the once i dont like ? :D
k1l_ 2017-03-05 05:59:29
mantise: test it yourself. we dont know what you do or like
mozza77 2017-03-05 05:59:39
mantise: yep
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:00:08
I asked because for me personally, it'd be more hassle to go around making usbs for each I wanna try
mantise 2017-03-05 06:01:11
well it will take some time with installing/uninstalling :) thats the only reason for not installing them all. but maybe thats what i need to do :)
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:02:15
I guess. It seems like you'd be taking the same or more time downloading and creating the USBs
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:02:18
i installed redshift recently and got it to work on my primary monitor - however i i am running a dual monitor setup :: my nvidia driver handles those as a combined screen "screen 0" i am using raandr method because it was suggested to be the best option for multi monitor setups; here is my xrandr: http://pastebin.com/dMvC9YgE can someone help me ?
mantise 2017-03-05 06:02:29
the review said he had some crashes with testing kde. kde had slow boot up time ect
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:02:34
Anyway do it however you want. I was just thinking how I would do it
mantise 2017-03-05 06:03:24
kde use the least amount of memory compared to unity and gnome
k1l_ 2017-03-05 06:03:51
mantise: test it :)
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:03:52
thyriaen: are they a single screen?
mantise 2017-03-05 06:04:12
so kde also did best with multi tasking :)
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:04:19
mozza77, yes they are
mantise 2017-03-05 06:04:47
yeah i will
mantise 2017-03-05 06:04:57
anyone had issues with the kubuntu installer ?
k1l_ 2017-03-05 06:05:19
maybe, maybe not :)
mantise 2017-03-05 06:05:46
language and keyboard selection ect
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:05:52
thyriaen: follow up question, installed redshift from package manager , or compiled?
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:06:05
from the package manger
mantise 2017-03-05 06:06:26
ah well, thanks for your "help" :p have a nice day
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:06:39
Hmm
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:07:43
thyriaen: I am not certain but I suspect it's just nvidia not playing nice, and maybe does not have a solution for you
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:08:21
want me to look something up in the nvidia driver ?
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:08:57
would it help if i configure my monitors as seperate screens ?
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:10:18
I don't think so. I've heard of this issue before and my understanding using it as a single screen (whats the name for that?) is the one that works more often
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:11:08
thyriaen: give me a sec I need to google some commands
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:11:39
okay, well i found this bug on the interwebs too but it only always suggested not to use vidmode but randr instead
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:11:46
but i was already using that so idk
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:12:00
Yeah that's what I've read also
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:12:12
maybe cause i got different ways i have them connected ?
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:12:19
one is HDMI and the other DP
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:12:37
do 'redshift -m randr:help' ? did you set any options it lists there
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:13:20
Adjust gamma ramps with the X RANDR extension. screen=N X screen to apply adjustments to crtc=N CRTC to apply adjustments to
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:13:33
Yeah specifically the screen=n part
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:13:39
was there before
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:13:51
but since i only got one screen=0 is what i have atm
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:14:01
and if i do screen=1 then it says there is no screen 1
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:14:08
Aha sorry I see
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:14:10
since i got both as screen 0 combined
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:16:38
okey im onto something here this is wierd
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:17:24
if i call redshift it works perfectly fine now
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:17:24
I don't have any more guesses unfortunately. But this may be of interest: https://github.com/Kilian/f.lux-indicator-applet/issues/16 (it is quite old though)
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:17:35
but
hhee 2017-03-05 06:18:23
guys, is nerd-tree VIM plugin exists in ubuntu 16.10 repo?
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:18:35
About halfway down they are discussing a flux patch that allegedly worked with dual monitors and xrandr. So that's something to try if this redshift issue isn't resolved
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:18:39
but?
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:18:52
gimme a sec
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:19:10
hhee: use apt-cache show package-name
hhee 2017-03-05 06:19:21
mozza77, thx
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:19:22
Or search synaptic or whatever you use
snowkrash 2017-03-05 06:19:44
is it normal that /media shows mylinuxlive folder without any media?
alkisg 2017-03-05 06:20:32
If mylinuxlive is your username, yes
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:20:32
snowkrash: you mean if you click the folder it appears as empty?
snowkrash 2017-03-05 06:20:42
yes
snowkrash 2017-03-05 06:20:55
it also shows some other folders as well which do not exist
k1l_ 2017-03-05 06:21:04
snowkrash: is there someting mounted? can you show the output of "mount" in a pastebin?
snowkrash 2017-03-05 06:21:13
mom
snowkrash 2017-03-05 06:21:20
no there is nothing mounted
snowkrash 2017-03-05 06:21:35
it is also showing the usb which was mounted but isnt
snowkrash 2017-03-05 06:21:37
after reboot
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:22:02
mozza77, i think i figured it out - everything is working on the software side but my 2nd monitor has a different color scheme i can configure on the hardware end - which makes it look like its not working :)
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:22:52
thyriaen: wow would never have guessed
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:23:22
Out of curiosity, what funky color scheme are you using that tricked you :O
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:23:30
it was apparent when i chose 2000K as a setting
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:23:42
so it was more clear that there is a difference
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:23:51
trying to figure that out right now :)
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:24:14
the problem seems to be that even though they are from the same manufacturer its not the same monitor
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:24:15
thyriaen: did you try remounting ?
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:24:24
so i had do go out of my way to configure them so they look similar
k1l_ 2017-03-05 06:24:29
thyriaen: redshift looks different on my different monitors on the same machine.
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:24:38
remounting what device ?
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:24:39
thyriaen: oh so you were using something more subtle
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:24:49
yes
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:24:51
thyriaen: the ghost usb
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:25:03
not sure what ur talking about :)
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:25:04
Sorry
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:25:08
Im hitting tab on the wrong name
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:25:10
Didnt notice
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:25:15
ah :)
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:25:22
well thanks though
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:25:22
Havent slept lol
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:25:29
dude i know how you feel :)
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:25:36
sitting on my thesis
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:25:44
trying to distract myself with monitor sesttings :)
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:25:59
Man I am in the exact same boat
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:26:28
what are you procrastinating from ?
lakshay 2017-03-05 06:26:51
yooooo guys
lakshay 2017-03-05 06:27:06
waz up?
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:27:19
Middle Eastern studies
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:27:23
You?
snowkrash 2017-03-05 06:28:01
mozza77, i see /media seems not to clean up folder which were once mounted
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thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:28:16
mozza77, restarting redshift * argh my eyes *
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:29:28
snowkrash: If you havent already, try remounting it, the unmounting and see if it has any effect
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:30:11
thyriaen: What I did was write a script to very, very gradually adjust it when I run the script
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:30:31
mozza77, my bachelors thesis in theoretical computer science ( graph theory )
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:30:46
I don't even notice it's on @ somethling like 4000, 3500
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:31:14
im currently at 2700
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:31:20
and im trying to figure out if its on or not
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:31:31
my 2nd monitor is driving me nuts
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:31:32
graduate student. I don't envy you but at the same time let me just say 5 years of Arabic has crushed my soul haha
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:31:45
haha
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:32:10
I dont go that low anymore. I have it stop around 3500
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:32:28
Partly because that's how gradual it is. By the time it hits 3500 I'm off
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:32:32
im running 6500,2700
precise 2017-03-05 06:32:57
Good afternoon everyone! I am setting up a new Ubuntu Server VPS, and it this error has finally bugged me enough. Everytime I run apt upgrade it throws this error: "W: mdadm: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf defines no arrays." Now, I found this AskUbuntu post: https://askubuntu.com/questions/834903/i-dont-have-a-raid-but-get-the-warning-mdadm-conf-defines-no-arrays It suggests that I simply add that line to said
precise 2017-03-05 06:33:03
file, there isn't really a dissenting opinion on this solution, does anyone in here see any unforseen consequences of that action? Thanks for your time!
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:33:34
thyriaen: you must have the orangest color theme in the world
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:34:19
no thats just it, i am looking at for example the menu bar and its perefectly grey
snowkrash 2017-03-05 06:34:25
mozza77, i will thanks
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:34:31
however if i check my primary its like orangey
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:35:02
i would send you a picture :)
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:35:21
snowkrash: It's worth a try. I don't know what weird folders you're seeing. But that would be the first thing I try
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:35:53
thyriaen: I really am interesting. I have so much trouble picturing not able to distinguish 2700 from something like 6400
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:36:09
Interested*
WeiJunLi 2017-03-05 06:36:14
help fixing this issue pls, seems my disk image is corrupted and I would need to remount it, just not sure how. http://dpaste.com/3D2AVYT
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:36:19
yes you are really interesting
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:37:05
okey, i have toggled it for a second and i was able to see the difference
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:37:06
Haha. My english has seriously deteriorated
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:37:31
i guess my white balance of my eyes is simply too good :)
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:37:42
That's good. I don't see how people live without redshift/flux at night
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:37:51
the thing is
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:37:57
if i compare 1st and 2nd monitor
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:38:00
on the same setting
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:38:03
the one is orange
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:38:06
the one is white
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:38:25
Someone said earlier they can look differently
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:38:36
ye its okay
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:38:44
i am happy that everything is in order now
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:38:44
Ive never sat down and compared (I dont use dual monitor setups either)
WeiJunLi 2017-03-05 06:39:01
any hint?
k1l_ 2017-03-05 06:39:08
thyriaen: mozza77 monitors have different color temperatures if they are not the same make and model
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:39:44
This is news to me. Where's my check for the mozza77 monitors
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:41:39
I've a question. Maybe you can offer input. I have an dell inspiron, keyboard is a bit trashed + battery doesnt work. I was thinking about putting a cli only distro on it and putting it away in a corner wired by ethernet and forgetting it physically exists
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:42:07
And use it for SSH
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:42:23
lol
hardest 2017-03-05 06:42:29
Hi everyone, yesterday my ubuntu GUI crashed when I just left my computer locked, then I turned back and it was crashed, ive rebooted and then the message has appeared: (low-graphics mode) but it is still not booting, I can boot correctly with 3 on init, Ive tried uninstall nvidia drivers, gmd, ubuntu-desktop but it doesnt fixing. Maybe I dont know if would be the cause, the kali repository it was enabled on apt sources.list. I am stucked and
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:42:32
Is there any crazy danger I need to know about?
thyriaen 2017-03-05 06:42:43
i was like "what you want install a OS on your keyboard ?"
hardest 2017-03-05 06:42:47
gdm*
k1l_ 2017-03-05 06:42:49
mozza77: i dont see an issue there
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:43:24
Cool. I just hate to see the hard drive go to waste, but same time I dont have a use for it outside of that laptop
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:43:53
thyriaen: I'm not proud to admit it but I do a lot of SSHing from a tablet + bluetooth keyboard lol
mozza77 2017-03-05 06:44:17
Used to think people were crazy. Now feels as comfortable as being on laptop