dell 2017-03-04 14:45:08
are there are any good backup software in ubuntu? like taking backup every 3 hours
reisio 2017-03-04 14:45:44
dell: yes, many
reisio 2017-03-04 14:45:58
do you want 1:1 backup, or incremental backup (every backup is cumulative)?
dell 2017-03-04 14:46:34
1:1 sounds better
dell 2017-03-04 14:46:48
easy to extracrt
reisio 2017-03-04 14:47:33
well, that's not really, hrmmm
angel1604 2017-03-04 14:47:50
hello
reisio 2017-03-04 14:48:19
so 1:1 is good if you want to say "I want to restore to 3 hours ago x FOO"
reisio 2017-03-04 14:48:29
but you also have to worry about what to do when you run out of space and have to prune old backups
reisio 2017-03-04 14:48:54
incremental is usually deduplicated
reisio 2017-03-04 14:49:02
so if nothing has changed in 3 hours, your backup nothing new
reisio 2017-03-04 14:49:08
if 2 megs has changed, you backup only 2 megs
reisio 2017-03-04 14:49:17
with 1:1 you always backup everything, basically
reisio 2017-03-04 14:49:35
unless you're making a single 1:1 mirror, in which case it can work much the same as deduplicated
dell 2017-03-04 14:49:43
ok.. so any software recommendations for incremental, then ?
reisio 2017-03-04 14:49:52
what you should think about is what you're protecting yourself from
reisio 2017-03-04 14:50:16
if you want to be able to undo 24 hours' worth of mistakes, you can just do a 1:1 backup daily
reisio 2017-03-04 14:50:27
if you want to be able to reset entirely to _any point in the past_, you want incremental
reisio 2017-03-04 14:50:48
for the former rsync is plenty
reisio 2017-03-04 14:51:01
for the latter rdiff-backup is nice / some others with similar features are obnam, bup
reisio 2017-03-04 14:51:20
only used rsync & rdiff-backup, they're nice
reisio 2017-03-04 14:51:34
rdiff-backup-fs is something you'll want, too, if you use rdiff-backup
dell 2017-03-04 14:52:10
so, for incremental, dont i have to restore from the first point ?
reisio 2017-03-04 14:52:35
no you pick a time
reisio 2017-03-04 14:52:52
if you run, for example, rdiff-backup /foo/ /bar/ every hour
reisio 2017-03-04 14:53:11
then you can restore to what your data was at any individual hour in the past from when you had run a backup
dell 2017-03-04 14:53:18
ok. i will look into those. thanks.
reisio 2017-03-04 14:53:26
but it only stores differences, so it keeps disk usage down
dell 2017-03-04 14:53:49
so, are there many terminal managers that are available? i am using the one on xubuntu. is it bash?
reisio 2017-03-04 14:53:50
otherwise if you altered a 50gb file, for example, you would have to store a second copy of a 50gb file
freakyy 2017-03-04 14:53:53
if i install the webupd8 java 8 installer, where to is my oracle java 8 jdk installed? i need it for netbeans (ide)
reisio 2017-03-04 14:54:12
dell: you're probably using bash (a "shell") within xfce4-terminal (a terminal emulator), yes
dell 2017-03-04 14:54:32
how do i know what i am using, ctrl alt t is opening a terminal window for me
reisio 2017-03-04 14:54:38
freakyy: netbeans shouldn't really need oracle's stuff
reisio 2017-03-04 14:54:41
nothing should, really
reisio 2017-03-04 14:54:48
certainly nothing worth using
dell 2017-03-04 14:54:57
ok. its. xfce4-terminal 0.6.3
reisio 2017-03-04 14:54:58
dell: it'll probably say in the help menu, but
reisio 2017-03-04 14:55:03
dell: xwininfo would also say
freakyy 2017-03-04 14:55:07
reisio: it does it tells me during install. i wanna use oracle stuff
reisio 2017-03-04 14:55:10
dell: ps aux | grep -i term would help you guess
reisio 2017-03-04 14:55:24
freakyy: you ever heard someone assert something that was false?
freakyy 2017-03-04 14:55:48
what?
reisio 2017-03-04 14:55:52
anyway, if you tell apt to install netbeans, it should install any java deps it requires without additional user interaction
freakyy 2017-03-04 14:56:00
hm
reisio 2017-03-04 14:56:02
it's not something you should think about
reisio 2017-03-04 14:56:10
that's rather the purpose of package managers
freakyy 2017-03-04 14:56:17
ok ill try one moment
dell 2017-03-04 14:56:28
reisio, i was reading something about path aliases and the article suggested ------> As far as paths go, if you are working from the command line, you can define a bash alias (in ~/.bashrc or in ~/.bash_aliases) to shorten any path or even to change into the directory.
dell 2017-03-04 14:56:36
would that work in xfce terminal ?
reisio 2017-03-04 14:57:40
dell: xfce4-terminal uses your shell (bash), and that shell would respect aliases, yes
freakyy 2017-03-04 14:57:45
hm, reisio i wanna use oracles java
freakyy 2017-03-04 14:57:47
not openjdk
reisio 2017-03-04 14:57:54
dell: I would probably use symlinks in that scenario, though, but it's a subtle difference
dell 2017-03-04 14:57:57
are there any termianls other than bash ?
dell 2017-03-04 14:58:06
i created a symlnk the other eay
reisio 2017-03-04 14:58:06
if you alias 'foo' to 'cd ~/what/ev/ers'
dell 2017-03-04 14:58:11
the other day.
reisio 2017-03-04 14:58:14
vs symlinking ~/foo to ~/what/ev/ers (and running cd ~/foo)
dell 2017-03-04 14:58:28
its easy, but i am a little worried that if i delete the symlink hte folder gets deleted
reisio 2017-03-04 14:58:31
dell: yes there are many, bash is simply the most popular by far
reisio 2017-03-04 14:58:43
that doesn't happen, just test it somewhere
dell 2017-03-04 14:58:48
ok
dell 2017-03-04 14:59:06
have you ever used windows reisio ?
reisio 2017-03-04 14:59:12
mkdir ~/test/foo -p; ln -s ~/test/foo ~/test/bar; rm ~/test/bar; file ~/test/foo
reisio 2017-03-04 15:00:05
you can also use 'unlink' if you're paranoid, though it's simply excessive vs rm
reisio 2017-03-04 15:00:12
yeah I mostly started on Windows
reisio 2017-03-04 15:00:41
C64/Apple II, DOS, Windows 3.1 ... Windows 2k ... GNU/Linux
dell 2017-03-04 15:00:50
reisio, symlinks worked fine. great
dell 2017-03-04 15:01:14
in windows, win+r pops up a run box, where i can type a path or command.... how to achieve that in xubuntu?
gaurav42 2017-03-04 15:01:19
how to connect Ubuntu client to windows server
dell 2017-03-04 15:01:24
opening a path in windows, opens file explorer
reisio 2017-03-04 15:01:48
dell: it's probably ALT+F2, by default, in Xubuntu
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:01:59
dell: alt+f2 then command
dell 2017-03-04 15:02:03
great. thanks
dell 2017-03-04 15:02:05
it worked
reisio 2017-03-04 15:02:07
you can map it to whatever you want, really
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:02:14
or /path/to/dir for opening a dir
reisio 2017-03-04 15:02:18
thinking about it, I'd say ALT+F2 is actually easier to hit than Win+R
reisio 2017-03-04 15:02:29
Apple's meta+spacebar is possibly better
reisio 2017-03-04 15:02:36
but that's almost all I have to say that's positive about macOS :p
dell 2017-03-04 15:02:56
how to map those shortcuts /
dell 2017-03-04 15:03:01
in settings > keyboard ?
reisio 2017-03-04 15:03:10
dell: yeah
dell 2017-03-04 15:03:16
any shortcut to see desktop ?
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:03:21
oh, actually just alt+f2 then /path opens it in the filemanager
reisio 2017-03-04 15:03:28
dell: CTRL+ALT+d, by default, probably
dell 2017-03-04 15:03:50
reisio, sometimes that doesnt work for me
reisio 2017-03-04 15:03:56
dell: whentiems
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:03:57
ctrl+super+d on unity
reisio 2017-03-04 15:03:58
whentimes*
sivaprasad 2017-03-04 15:04:13
Hi guys
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:04:23
for some reason i never really use the desktop for icons in linux
reisio 2017-03-04 15:04:37
yeah I don't like desktop icons
reisio 2017-03-04 15:04:42
it's just asking to make a mess
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:04:46
in windows my desktop was always a mess
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:04:49
yeah
dell 2017-03-04 15:05:00
sorry, tried a shortcut and my hexchat got closed :)
jason_- 2017-03-04 15:05:00
I just search for everything
reisio 2017-03-04 15:05:03
I only ever use it for temporary files, and it just becomes a mess
reisio 2017-03-04 15:05:11
but my memory is still functional
reisio 2017-03-04 15:05:25
if I were old and my brain were full of holes, I might like explicit launchers on the desktop
reisio 2017-03-04 15:05:36
of course as soon as you open something they'd disappear
reisio 2017-03-04 15:05:41
seems not a good idea to rely on them
dell 2017-03-04 15:05:59
do you know node.js reisio ?
reisio 2017-03-04 15:06:05
the Unity style launcher is useful for that
reisio 2017-03-04 15:06:10
dell: no, I know JS alright
reisio 2017-03-04 15:06:15
100% disinterested in node.js
dell 2017-03-04 15:06:22
so, php ?
d_ven0m 2017-03-04 15:07:06
Is there any way to create 2d shapes that conform to real sizes (in, cm) so that when I print them out they are the same size as on the computer?
dell 2017-03-04 15:07:16
reisio, so, i tried something called supervisor the other day
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:07:30
d_ven0m: you could use a cad program with a 1/1 scale
dell 2017-03-04 15:07:37
its for starting some service in the background without an explicit terminal window
dell 2017-03-04 15:07:48
i read there are others available as well. like init.d or something
d_ven0m 2017-03-04 15:08:13
EriC^^: is there a free 2d cad program with 1/1 scale ability?
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:08:41
d_ven0m: i've only used autocad and other windows software, but i hear freecad is good
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:09:36
there's an autocad clone for linux called draftsight, give it a shot
dell 2017-03-04 15:09:37
ok thanks guys, i got to go but appreciate the help
d_ven0m 2017-03-04 15:10:01
EriC^^: Thanks, I'm going to try them out
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:10:21
try draftsight first, it's easier i think cause it's not parametrized
EriC^^ 2017-03-04 15:11:26
no problem
Newtius 2017-03-04 15:19:04
Hello
Newtius 2017-03-04 15:19:45
so is anyone here
Bashing-om 2017-03-04 15:21:24
Newtius: Ubuntu support ; Ya got to throw some bait out to see what bites :)
Newtius 2017-03-04 15:21:43
I'm really bad at this so <3
Bashing-om 2017-03-04 15:22:52
Newtius: Practice makes perfect . State your issue .
reisio 2017-03-04 15:23:23
Newtius: at what?
Newtius 2017-03-04 15:23:53
I've been trying to install Ubuntu 16.04.2 onto a usb(cruzer sandisk 8gb) and booting it from my windows 10 machine
Newtius 2017-03-04 15:25:49
When I boot up the USB, I get SYSLINUX 4.04 EDD 2011-04-18 Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al. I used rufus to put the iso on to usb.
magkneetoe 2017-03-04 15:31:01
Hi, everyone. I just installed 16.04. I have two software apps. 'Ubuntu Software Center' and 'Ubuntu Software.' What is the difference and why does 'Ubuntu Software' not launch?
reisio 2017-03-04 15:32:31
dunno, every now and then Canonical decides it needs a new apt frontend
reisio 2017-03-04 15:32:36
but it's all apt under the hood
magkneetoe 2017-03-04 15:33:02
reisio: thank you
reisio 2017-03-04 15:34:16
magkneetoe: maybe GNOME's package manager frontend vs Canonical's
reisio 2017-03-04 15:34:30
http://askubuntu.com/questions/847653/ubuntu-software-vs-software-center http://www.pcworld.com/article/3017152/linux/ubuntu-16-04-lts-will-dump-the-ubuntu-software-center-for-gnome-software.html
reisio 2017-03-04 15:34:37
but ultimately what I already said: they can't make up their minds :p
magkneetoe 2017-03-04 15:34:40
It could be but I understood that its all apt
reisio 2017-03-04 15:34:43
it's what happens when you don't have clear goals
magkneetoe 2017-03-04 15:34:45
so I will leave it
reisio 2017-03-04 15:34:48
you just develop things forever instead of finishing them
magkneetoe 2017-03-04 15:35:06
xD
magkneetoe 2017-03-04 15:35:24
man they dont have the minimize from dock feature
reisio 2017-03-04 15:35:37
from or two?
magkneetoe 2017-03-04 15:35:52
like i wanna click the firefox icon on my dock tominimize it
reisio 2017-03-04 15:36:05
you can probably find an app/script or two in the repo or elsewhere to minimize arbitrary apps to the tray
magkneetoe 2017-03-04 15:36:19
yeah. thanks reisio
littlepenguin 2017-03-04 15:38:09
Can some one help with a bit of a conjure up issue?
littlepenguin 2017-03-04 15:38:47
I have install the whole cloud and it is running
littlepenguin 2017-03-04 15:39:15
but cannot access horizon because I did not get the ip and url at the deployment screen
reisio 2017-03-04 15:39:47
oh yes, soon we'll only speak in buzzwords
OerHeks 2017-03-04 15:41:39
but !bing ubuntu cloud horizon adress says http://node-address:70/horizon
littlepenguin 2017-03-04 15:43:23
I do not see it