markot 2017-03-03 08:45:34
genii: https://in.karhunmaki.fi/usb3_resets_problem.txt
OerHeks 2017-03-03 08:45:38
gebruiker, switch lts > lts to any version in updates, done
markot 2017-03-03 08:45:50
genii: please ask, if you need more information
markot 2017-03-03 08:47:08
genii: So Sandisk USB stick worked, but HDD enclosure did not. I can also reproduce this problem with another external HDD.
arooni 2017-03-03 08:49:39
my mom's windows computer got hacked and debating installing ubuntu desktop. she just uses her comp for browsing + document creation. is ubuntu a good choice for that? would also make remote admin of her machine easier
akik 2017-03-03 08:50:12
arooni: yes. you can't go wrong
blackrabbit 2017-03-03 08:51:24
arooni, document creation?
arooni 2017-03-03 08:51:31
like wordprocessing
blackrabbit 2017-03-03 08:51:40
libre office is shit, she will hate it
arooni 2017-03-03 08:51:46
well wps writer is pretty good
arooni 2017-03-03 08:51:50
i use that on my laptop
axisys 2017-03-03 08:52:12
anyone know how to explore shrepoint contents? I need to get some data from sharepoint unfortunately.
OerHeks 2017-03-03 08:52:17
blackrabbit, not helpfull, lo is fine
blackrabbit 2017-03-03 08:53:13
OerHeks, I am using it myself, but you can't really skip from excel 2016 to Libre office Calc
arooni 2017-03-03 08:53:21
btw speaking of my laptop; anyone know how to deal with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1566302 ... seems like there are no answers
ubottu 2017-03-03 08:53:23
Launchpad bug 1566302 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 16.04: Suspend freezes the system after upgrade to linux image 4.4.0-16" [Medium,Won't fix]
axisys 2017-03-03 08:53:37
I need to access https://home.example.net/livelink/llisapi.dll?func=ll&objId=35295609&objAction=browse&sort=name&viewType=1
OerHeks 2017-03-03 08:54:09
arooni, old kernel, won't fix .. if it happens again on 4.4.0-64, file a bugreport
arooni 2017-03-03 08:54:23
i have that kernel version and its still occuring
arooni 2017-03-03 08:54:31
i didnt know bugs were tied to a kernel version; but i guess it makes sense
arooni 2017-03-03 08:57:03
anyway to get the 4.4.8 kernel ?
arooni 2017-03-03 08:57:08
and stay at 16.04
genii 2017-03-03 08:58:45
markot: For some reason when you plug in the enclosure, it sees a hard drive, but also an optical drive ( DVD)
OerHeks 2017-03-03 08:59:22
arooni, HWE gives 4.8 kernel iirc
OerHeks 2017-03-03 08:59:24
!hwe
ubottu 2017-03-03 08:59:24
The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
arooni 2017-03-03 08:59:49
also; according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/836260/how-can-i-use-16-10-yakkety-kernel-in-16-04-xenial ;; The second point release for Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) is scheduled for February 16th, 2017. It will be powered by Linux kernel 4.8 replacing the currently used 4.4 branch. ... i have 16.04.2 ; but my kernel doesn't seem to be 4.8 ?
nacc 2017-03-03 09:01:26
arooni: you have to opt-in if upgrading
nacc 2017-03-03 09:01:29
!hwe | arooni
ubottu 2017-03-03 09:01:29
arooni: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
markot 2017-03-03 09:03:00
genii: Thanks. Could you elaborate how did you figured out that it also sees the enclosure as a optical drive?
arooni 2017-03-03 09:07:28
nacc: ok i opted in with sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 ;; so now all i need to do is restart?
OerHeks 2017-03-03 09:08:30
If you want to run that kernel, yes
nacc 2017-03-03 09:08:33
arooni: right
arooni 2017-03-03 09:08:35
oh man
arooni 2017-03-03 09:08:39
i'm so excited
arooni 2017-03-03 09:08:47
i'll be able to do so many more things now
arooni 2017-03-03 09:08:54
like .. maybe resume my laptop from suspend lol
arooni 2017-03-03 09:09:02
[w/o a kernel panic]
markot 2017-03-03 09:11:09
Should I file a bug report about this problem?
genii 2017-03-03 09:11:57
markot: HDD plugin: [ +0,000006] sd 18:0:0:0: [sdf] tag#1 CDB: Write(10) 2a 00 04 40 ad 00 00 04 00 00
genii 2017-03-03 09:11:58
2a=10 bytes incoming, including myself. 00=test unit ready. 04=format. 40=change definition. ad=read DVD structure. 00 00=test unit ready 2 times. 04=format. 00 00= test unit ready 2 times again.
genii 2017-03-03 09:11:58
SanDisk plugin: [ +0,000530] sd 17:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg9 type 0 sgX devices are optical drives
markot 2017-03-03 09:12:42
genii: Oki. I see.
hannibal 2017-03-03 09:13:34
hello everyone
markot 2017-03-03 09:14:02
genii: On this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1624917) bug report Volden says that similar problem is "possible UAS module bug"
ubottu 2017-03-03 09:14:03
Launchpad bug 1624917 in linux (Ubuntu) "external usb-3 disk crashes when writing." [Medium,Confirmed]
markot 2017-03-03 09:14:51
Oh. Nice bot :-)
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:14:51
Hi.
markot 2017-03-03 09:14:54
ubottu: Thank you bot.
ubottu 2017-03-03 09:14:54
markot: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
arooni 2017-03-03 09:15:45
well this kernel seems to be working a lot better in terms of resuming from suspend without a kernel panic! i have gotten so use to this; i forgot how nice it was
arooni 2017-03-03 09:15:55
good job kernel + ubuntu devs :)
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:16:47
trying to install Lubuntu on an old Pentium4/1GB im getting stuck at installer with a blank screen. Memtest86+ and HDD disk are OK. BIOS restored to defaults and other devices (PCI) removed
OerHeks 2017-03-03 09:17:01
have fun, arooni
genii 2017-03-03 09:17:02
markot: Have you tried to update the USB device listings yet? ( with sudo update-usbids )
arooni 2017-03-03 09:17:10
for my mom's computer it has a core2duo processor; and 2-4GB of ram. do i need 32 bit or 64 build of ubuntu for her?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:17:34
where I can see a "installer progress trace" (CTRL+ALT+F1-6 doesnt work) to guess what's happening?
sojusnik 2017-03-03 09:17:39
On Ubuntu Gnome 16.10 the Gnome-Shell is sporadically crashing after unlocking the lock-screen. Restarting it (Alt+F2, then r) helps, but gets annoying over time. I'm trying to locate the source, but need help. The crash happened around 20:53:21 - 35, the appropriate log is to be found here: https://paste.gnome.org/ppacprpov Thanks for helping!
genii 2017-03-03 09:17:47
markot: ...because there may be a new definition available for that enclosure or sandisk which doesn't make it think there's a DVD attached
ioria 2017-03-03 09:18:09
pentium4_ubuntu, what lubuntu exactly ? 16.04 ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:18:20
16.04, yes ioria
markot 2017-03-03 09:18:25
genii: Yep. Will do that.
ioria 2017-03-03 09:18:40
pentium4_ubuntu, do you get the Main Menu ? install, try, etc. etc ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:19:26
ioria yes. advanced options didnt seem to work either
ioria 2017-03-03 09:20:03
pentium4_ubuntu, how did you do the usb stick ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:20:03
rufus, twice. before that tried with unetbootin
ioria 2017-03-03 09:20:06
pentium4_ubuntu, try to press F6 and select nomodeset
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:20:19
already, save result
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:20:33
*nolacpi and others also tried
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:20:41
*same
ioria 2017-03-03 09:21:15
pentium4_ubuntu, when exactly do you get stuck ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:21:24
at the very beginning
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:21:49
just after selecting install in both, destop or alternate
ioria 2017-03-03 09:21:51
pentium4_ubuntu, you press 'try lubuntu' and then nothing ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:22:03
not try, just install
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:22:18
and, yes...nothing but emptyness :P
ioria 2017-03-03 09:22:23
pentium4_ubuntu, try 'try lubuntu' with nomodeset selected ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:23:20
to be honest, i dont think i did...neither i think it would work, but i can try...
ioria 2017-03-03 09:23:35
pentium4_ubuntu, what is a desktop ?
ioria 2017-03-03 09:23:37
pentium4_ubuntu, or laptop ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:24:00
desktop/tower. asrock ge pro-ht
ioria 2017-03-03 09:24:15
pentium4_ubuntu, what video card ?
markot 2017-03-03 09:24:19
genii: Downloaded new version of the USB ID list, unmounted&removed and inserted&mounted back the enclosure. http://pastebin.com/CijcpvxF
markot 2017-03-03 09:24:38
genii: Will test next, if this had any impact for the copy problem.
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:25:01
integrated
genii 2017-03-03 09:25:21
markot: OK.
BluesKaj 2017-03-03 09:26:58
oops
ioria 2017-03-03 09:27:44
pentium4_ubuntu, you probably have a sis video card ... not good
BluesKaj 2017-03-03 09:27:53
my ethenet cable has wonky connector
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:28:18
not good= cant install, ot even in 800*600?
OerHeks 2017-03-03 09:29:35
agp 4x, maybe the vesa driver will work on that >> vga=791 http://askubuntu.com/questions/849481/force-vesa-driver-in-ubuntu-16-10
ioria 2017-03-03 09:29:35
pentium4_ubuntu, but you also have a AGP slot ... so you can find , if it dosen't work, an agp video card (nvidia or ati)
OerHeks 2017-03-03 09:29:35
791 = (1024x768 16bit).
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:29:53
ioria: yes. i can find some AGPs, but would it worth it xD
townes127 2017-03-03 09:29:54
Hi. Not 100% where to start researching this. I want a quick way to reboot my laptop to console only (e.g. no X loaded). I often use my laptop remotely but would rather not have X/and my windows manager etc sucking RAM when I only need a CLI
ioria 2017-03-03 09:30:18
pentium4_ubuntu, why not ? have you tried 'try ubuntu' with nomodeset ?
genii 2017-03-03 09:30:42
markot: dmesg indicates: [ +0,000803] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0 ...which makes me think it's going to still keep trying to read DVD filesystem structure from the hard drive
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:31:01
ioria: not yet... "burning usb"
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:31:12
alternate image doesnt have a try option
ioria 2017-03-03 09:31:12
pentium4_ubuntu, you can also remove 'quite splash' from the kernel boot line, pressing 'e' or 'tab'
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:31:29
on menu, isnt it?
ioria 2017-03-03 09:31:55
pentium4_ubuntu, alternate ? i don't remember.... don't you have desktop already ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:32:20
just burned!
ioria 2017-03-03 09:32:35
pentium4_ubuntu, what ? alternate ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:33:03
hmmm...it worth mentioning HDD surface test stopped at 34GB/40GB
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:33:23
no, just burned desktop. going to try "try+nomodeset"
ioria 2017-03-03 09:33:37
pentium4_ubuntu, you mean bad hd ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:34:09
and it suddenly resume
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:34:20
that's suspicious...
ioria 2017-03-03 09:34:30
pentium4_ubuntu, check the pata/ide cable
markot 2017-03-03 09:35:01
genii: First reset happened after 5 minutes (about 20GiB) of copying: http://pastebin.com/9VU8f20w
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:35:04
it had 2, one for HDD one for CD. changed before surface test
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:35:28
going to try, brb
markot 2017-03-03 09:36:38
genii: How about Volden's comment here about UAS being the culprit? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1624917
ubottu 2017-03-03 09:36:39
Launchpad bug 1624917 in linux (Ubuntu) "external usb-3 disk crashes when writing." [Medium,Confirmed]
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:38:09
ioria: try+nomodeset = black screen
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:38:19
and...kernbel panic! at least something new!!!
ioria 2017-03-03 09:38:20
pentium4_ubuntu, may i suggest you 14.04 ?
markot 2017-03-03 09:38:29
genii: Is disabling the UAS the way to go? Seems that I have been affected by this same bug.
ossifrage 2017-03-03 09:38:38
I'm trying to install 16.10 in a vm (vmware workstation 12) and the installer is drawing off the screen (and for some reason tab does not navigate through the ui elements)
sojusnik 2017-03-03 09:39:03
On Ubuntu Gnome 16.10 the Gnome-Shell is sporadically crashing after unlocking the lock-screen. Restarting it (Alt+F2, then r) helps, but gets annoying over time. I'm trying to locate the source, but need help. The crash happened around 20:53:21 - 35, the appropriate log is to be found here https://paste.gnome.org/ppacprpov and https://paste.gnome.org/pqivayhbk (taken from /var/log/syslog) Thanks for helping!
nacc 2017-03-03 09:39:14
ossifrage: sounds like an issue with vmware?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:39:25
ioria: how much confident are u in 14.04 running?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:39:46
I would love to know more about sis 651 issue
ioria 2017-03-03 09:39:49
pentium4_ubuntu, good question
ossifrage 2017-03-03 09:39:58
nacc, it looks more like a layout issue with the installer, because it knows the bounds of the screen (the top bar is in the correct place)
ioria 2017-03-03 09:40:18
pentium4_ubuntu, do you have an ethernet card ?
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:40:22
and...could you know where the problem could be with kernel panic details?
genii 2017-03-03 09:40:34
markot: seems similar. But they are getting a different series of SCSI commands than your original. And your new paste has a different set then both your previous paste, and his.
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:40:37
yes, integrated but untested
genii 2017-03-03 09:40:45
then/than
ossifrage 2017-03-03 09:41:11
Prety much every dialog is drawing the next/back (?) buttons off the screen
OerHeks 2017-03-03 09:41:17
pentium4_ubuntu, basicly: that SiS bord with agp 4x is so old, maybe the vesa driver will work on that >> vga=791 http://askubuntu.com/questions/849481/force-vesa-driver-in-ubuntu-16-10
ioria 2017-03-03 09:41:35
pentium4_ubuntu, have you removed 'quiet splash ' ?
genii 2017-03-03 09:41:40
markot: It occurs to me that the USB may be hibernating
OerHeks 2017-03-03 09:41:43
else it is a paperweight/doorstopper/boatanchor
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:41:54
ioria: not yet...just tested try+nomodeset
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:42:04
and (finallly) got a kernel panic
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:42:10
may I?
ioria 2017-03-03 09:42:13
pentium4_ubuntu, try, if it gets balck open a console
ioria 2017-03-03 09:42:18
*black
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:42:31
lets try...
markot 2017-03-03 09:42:39
genii: Same occurred me and I tried to disable USB hibernation features from the BIOS (could not find any setting related to USB hibernation though).
alkisg 2017-03-03 09:42:59
pentium4_ubuntu: you're trying sis with ubuntu 16.04? It won't work, you need 14.04.1
ioria 2017-03-03 09:43:28
pentium4_ubuntu, ^ alkisg
alkisg 2017-03-03 09:43:42
It's been removed in recent xorg versions
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:43:52
ioria: try withoput quiet splash and....nomodeset?
ioria 2017-03-03 09:44:14
pentium4_ubuntu, let's try, but in the meanwhile download 14.04
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:44:26
ioria: ok
evgenij 2017-03-03 09:44:36
hello!
ioria 2017-03-03 09:44:40
alkisg, it's not working even with nomodeset ....
pentium4_ubuntu 2017-03-03 09:44:48
alkisg: would it still work after upgrading packages, or shall i stay "freezed"?