jamesp_ 2017-01-26 03:45:13
the nat is working fab , and firewall to the host is working fab as well
ikevin 2017-01-26 03:45:21
with this 2 rules it's the case (if default rule is DROP)
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 03:45:40
so why is 80 allowed?
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 03:45:45
if the rule is 443
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 03:46:15
oh wait, its stopped working now
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 03:46:16
lol
ikevin 2017-01-26 03:46:35
:)
ikevin 2017-01-26 03:46:54
be sure that the default rule is on DROP (or REJECT)
theos 2017-01-26 03:50:43
hi all
agd 2017-01-26 03:50:54
hello theos
theos 2017-01-26 03:51:04
what is snapd? and why did is start on its own and started using all of my bandwidth?
k1l 2017-01-26 03:51:30
theos: snapd is the background service for the snappy packages.
theos 2017-01-26 03:51:55
k1l why did it start on its own?
agd 2017-01-26 03:52:07
for the sake of a greater Good
k1l 2017-01-26 03:53:00
theos: why not? it looks for updates for installed packages. like the update notifier does for apt packages
theos 2017-01-26 03:54:24
k1l oh? thats it? there havent been any popups from the update-manager after i installed 16.04. i have to manually start it to check for available updates
theos 2017-01-26 03:55:09
i was thinking of removing the program or renaming it
k1l 2017-01-26 03:55:54
theos: the update notifier will look for updates and if its not marked as critical it will wait and isntall them once a week or so (i dont know the time frame now)
k1l 2017-01-26 03:56:06
theos: i still dont get what your issue with snapd is
theos 2017-01-26 03:56:29
k1l my issue is that it was downloading data without my permission
meekara 2017-01-26 03:56:42
hello all I've an issue with alsa loopback device
OerHeks 2017-01-26 03:56:42
You can easily disable the service, i would not do that, sudo systemctl disable snapd.refresh.service
meekara 2017-01-26 03:56:58
does anyone who have experience with alsa ?
ikevin 2017-01-26 03:57:04
snaps are crap :(
k1l 2017-01-26 03:57:09
theos: it was updating the installed snaps
theos 2017-01-26 03:57:10
OerHeks why would you not do that?
k1l 2017-01-26 03:57:25
theos: see "snap list" to list the installed snaps
theos 2017-01-26 03:57:25
k1l i see. what are "snaps"
k1l 2017-01-26 03:58:00
theos: snaps are a new package format for linux distributions. its a different approach than .deb packages.
OerHeks 2017-01-26 03:58:06
theos, your concern is networkactivity without permission, that updating should not use that much bandwidth
k1l 2017-01-26 03:58:32
theos: and i doubt it was using that much bandwith
agd 2017-01-26 03:58:41
snaps are crap, ikevin is drab
theos 2017-01-26 03:59:07
k1l i checked with nethogs. snapd was using almost all of it for a very long time. then i had to kill it
theos 2017-01-26 03:59:23
i dont have much bandwidth though but still
k1l 2017-01-26 03:59:47
i guess it loaded the 79MB update for the snap service.
k1l 2017-01-26 04:00:01
if you dont want it, remove it.
agd 2017-01-26 04:00:50
79MB? that's more money ikevin makes in a year!
k1l 2017-01-26 04:01:03
agd: ikevin please stop that in here
theos 2017-01-26 04:01:25
ok thanks everyone. i disabled it
agd 2017-01-26 04:01:26
k1l, me and ikevin have a long running joke amongst eachother
agd 2017-01-26 04:01:28
nothing serious
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 04:03:44
ikevin, would destination ip by the internal nat ip or the external public ip
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 04:03:47
on the forward rule
ikevin 2017-01-26 04:04:51
jamesp_, it's an outgoing connection, so destination ip is the ip of your http(s) server
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 04:05:30
from which perspective though
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 04:05:33
public or internal
ikevin 2017-01-26 04:06:07
public
theos 2017-01-26 04:14:07
so what would happen if snapd is disabled? i can still install and update apps manually?
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:14:56
theos, the snaps lists will be outdated, i guess you run into issues
theos 2017-01-26 04:15:27
OerHeks what kind of issues?
ChadTaljaardt 2017-01-26 04:15:50
Does anyone know if "cantenna's" work?
k1l 2017-01-26 04:15:56
theos: no, no snap apps.
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:16:01
theos, like not finding packages at all, or other errors.
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:16:53
ChadTaljaardt, extended antenna? sure they work.
theos 2017-01-26 04:16:57
OerHeks but the update-manager can still find updates? and i can use apt/apt-install to find and install new packages?
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:17:40
theos, if you disable snapd.refresh.service, tell us what happens? never tried such ation
ChadTaljaardt 2017-01-26 04:17:47
i have a cantenna im trying to get working for my uncle, he lives on a campsite and is far away from the router so he needs a long range internet. He bought a cantenna and he coudnt get it working so he gave it to me, but i have no idea how to get it working
k1l 2017-01-26 04:18:34
theos: snap and apt/deb are 2 different things
theos 2017-01-26 04:18:41
OerHeks ok.
theos 2017-01-26 04:19:09
k1l yes thats what i came here to understand. "what in the world is a snap"
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:19:14
ChadTaljaardt, just 1 cantenna on your machine, does not make it work, the accesspoint needs to have the same device to bridge the long distance too
k1l 2017-01-26 04:19:25
theos: i explained to you already
ChadTaljaardt 2017-01-26 04:19:49
OerHeks so he needs a cantenna at the office and a cantenna at his house, and then point them together?
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:20:01
ChadTaljaardt, yes.
ilyaigpetrov 2017-01-26 04:20:06
Hi guys. How many of you still use Chromium/Chrome older than current version 55?
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:20:06
https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/snappy
k1l 2017-01-26 04:20:10
theos: if you need more extensive information look at http://snapcraft.io/ or #snappy
k1l 2017-01-26 04:20:27
ilyaigpetrov: no one, since ubuntu doesnt ship that old chromium anymore
theos 2017-01-26 04:20:30
ok thanks
agd 2017-01-26 04:20:34
is NSA allowed to contaminate ubuntu?
k1l 2017-01-26 04:21:00
agd: no
agd 2017-01-26 04:21:05
the question is not whether ubuntu is contaminated by the NSA, but rather if NSA has the allowance to do so
_arktos75_ 2017-01-26 04:21:06
its not like them to ask for permission ....
agd 2017-01-26 04:21:14
k1l: if ubuntu is based in the USA, surely it is allowed
agd 2017-01-26 04:21:27
and from what has been shown: if NSA is allowed, it will do it
k1l 2017-01-26 04:21:31
agd: so why are you asking such trolling questions? please stop that in here
agd 2017-01-26 04:21:37
im not trolling, k1l
ilyaigpetrov 2017-01-26 04:21:40
k1l: yep, except Trusty users, but I guess it's only used by old servers now
agd 2017-01-26 04:21:46
im merely telling everybody here that your system has NSA in it
k1l 2017-01-26 04:21:54
agd: this is the technical support channel. keep it clear for technical support
agd 2017-01-26 04:21:57
ok
k1l 2017-01-26 04:22:11
agd: last warning not to misuse this channel
k1l 2017-01-26 04:22:31
ilyaigpetrov: hmm
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:23:04
Hello, i just installed ubuntu 16.10 and ubuntu-software dosnt work... it doesnt open. Can someone help me ?
ilyaigpetrov 2017-01-26 04:23:06
k1l: Trusty is LTS
k1l 2017-01-26 04:23:16
ilyaigpetrov: you are right. it was just updated for xenial and yakkety
agd 2017-01-26 04:23:17
michal__, why have you installed 16.10?
agd 2017-01-26 04:23:26
michal__, it'll be finished in a few months
agd 2017-01-26 04:23:34
michal__: use your head and get 16.04
k1l 2017-01-26 04:23:37
agd: stop it
k1l 2017-01-26 04:23:42
michal__: dont mind the troll
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:23:43
agd, not helpfull
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:24:05
im new i said on the website its good..
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:24:10
it *
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:24:33
"The latest version of the Ubuntu operating system for desktop PCs and laptops, Ubuntu 16.10 comes with nine months of security and maintenance updates."
k1l 2017-01-26 04:24:50
michal__: 16.10 is fine. what is the exact issue?
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:24:57
Its in beta ?
k1l 2017-01-26 04:25:10
no its not. the user was trolling you
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:25:20
So o click on the icon and nothing happens
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:25:34
the old one works...
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:25:44
michal__, if you run updates, do you get an error?
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:25:48
i installed it..
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:25:59
nope, its all up to date
k1l 2017-01-26 04:26:15
michal__: can you run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in terminal?
k1l 2017-01-26 04:26:30
michal__: is unity the desktop? (its the standard one for ubuntu)
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:27:12
so, 0 to install 0 to update
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:27:24
im using defoult one 7 i think
k1l 2017-01-26 04:28:52
can you open a terminal and try to start "ubuntu-software" from there?
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:28:56
i installed old software center from ubuntu 14.04 i think, and its working
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:29:01
yea sure
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:29:04
michal__, what happens when you run from terminal: gnome-software
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 04:29:06
hey ikevin , that Forwarding works fab
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 04:29:18
but now for some reason, all the nat servers cant get outgoing internet
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:29:33
ubuntu-software do nothing no error, dosent even exit command
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:29:39
just stay open forever
ikevin 2017-01-26 04:29:42
jamesp_, you need to allow them in the forward table
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:29:56
gnome-software the same
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 04:30:00
righto , let me try
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:30:14
no errors :(
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 04:31:10
yay its only bloody working .. fab!!
jamesp_ 2017-01-26 04:31:16
ikevin, thanks so much for your help today
k1l 2017-01-26 04:31:20
michal__: hmm
ikevin 2017-01-26 04:31:33
jamesp_, your welcome
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:31:45
http://imgur.com/a/Wp2yY - i took screen shot
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:32:39
k1l, should he reinstall ubuntu-software or run dpkg --configure -a ?
k1l 2017-01-26 04:33:18
OerHeks: worth a try. also i dont know why that is broken on a new install already.
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:34:14
me too, maybe updates have passed that require reboot, unlikely as 16.10 gives a line that reboot is needed3
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:34:35
i had to install "synaptic" from the beginning and the old software center let me install google chrome
k1l 2017-01-26 04:34:43
ilyaigpetrov: i looked into launchpad and saw, that its 53 chromium build through the udpates and security repos. so maybe file a bug report to get the 55 build shipped to 14.04 too
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:35:00
it wasnt working from the beginning..
ilyaigpetrov 2017-01-26 04:36:03
k1l: I think if somebody still uses Trusty on Desktop then its their problem not mine
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:38:33
sudo ubuntu-software also do nothing :(:(
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:39:23
should i try to reinstall it ?
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:39:26
michal__, run dpkg --configure -a # to reinstall the whole desktop and see what happens
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:39:45
like this "dpkg --configure -a #" ?
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:39:52
with # ?
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:39:52
without #
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:39:57
okey
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:40:15
okey done
Zeranoe 2017-01-26 04:40:24
Is it possible to somewhat "share" files between a local and remote machine? I'd like to use a local editor to edit a remote file, and would like to avoid SSHing in to use Vim.
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:40:26
i took 1sec. no error
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:40:30
it *
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:40:44
should i reboot or something ?
k1l 2017-01-26 04:41:03
Zeranoe: you can use scp to cp it to your machine
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:41:04
michal__, no, just click software center icon again.
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:41:18
loading....
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:41:42
ok, so icons appared on the task bar and then vanished .. :(
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:41:47
icon *
k1l 2017-01-26 04:41:48
Zeranoe: or you open the window of the remote program with ssh -X on your local machine.
Zeranoe 2017-01-26 04:42:39
On Windows it's as easy as browsing to the remote machine with \\machine :(
OerHeks 2017-01-26 04:42:48
michal__, strange.. you might want to try a reboot, but i doubt it makes a difference.
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:42:58
:(
k1l 2017-01-26 04:43:09
Zeranoe: well, its as easy on ubuntu with nautilus but you didnt tell you have a samba share or nfs share running there
michal__ 2017-01-26 04:43:27
i will try to reinstall with "sudo apt-get remove --purge software-center" is it ok ?
gile_ 2017-01-26 04:43:48
Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location. How would you like to proceed? install different location, continue without bootloader or cancel installation